[Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl

Wed May 23 01:02:33 UTC 2012

Let alone a misuse of the English language! (grin)

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gary Wunder
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:07 AM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl

When did it happen and what exactly happened? If we are talking about
something that happened two decades ago, we'll have less impact than
something that happened two months ago. I am always a bit concerned when
there is no name or number to contact.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Cindy Handel
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl

I think the terminology makes a difference in allowing us to know just what 
happened to her.  But, I think someone in authority, such as law 
enforcement, should be doing something about this, whatever it is.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:51 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl

While I agree with you, there may be differing opinions.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Michelle Medina
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl

None the less, it's wrong, whatever name it goes by.

As the Justice System says:
res ipsa lou couture.
IRE: If it looks like it, acts like it and smells like it then it's it.

On 5/21/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> Frankly, some of the abusive situations of which Pete and others wrote are
> regrettably true. Note Dr. jernigan's experiences in "Why I'm a
> Federationist". However, the title of the article is enough to make me
> question a good bit about this story. "Electrocutes"? Really?
Electrocution
> is what happened to Bruno Richard Hauptmann for killing Charles Lindberg's
> baby. I don't recall hearing of a blind girl murdered in Massachusetts
> recently. Whatever we think of electroshock therapy, let's get our wording
> straight. Imprecise speaking leads to imprecise thinking!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:40 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>
> Ray,
> The unfortunate part of this whether true or not, is that children are
> vulnerable, and even more so, children with disabilities even more
> vulnerable.  There are way too many cases where children are restrained,
> abused, neglected or punished in cruel and unusal ways.  If this story is
> indeed true, lets hope that Mass Department of Human Services along with
> the
> NFB can intervene.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>
> Well well well, I just cannot believe this!!!  I just can't figure in my
> mind how someone could abuse blind kids.  Then again, I shouldn't be one
to
> talk; considering the fact that I was almost strangled to death in my
> dormitory room.  Were it not for a cousin who was living in Baton Rouge at
> the time and who took me in, I would most likely have had to move to
> another
> state and gone to another blind school and goodness knows what all might
> have happened then.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Gloria Whipple wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> When my twin brother and I were attending the state school for the blind
> in Vancouver, My brother and other needy children were tied to hot
> radiators
> by one of the house parents.
>>
>> One of our fellow students got into a lot of trouble freeing them.
>>
>> Sorry for rambling on, but this kind of stuff angers me!
>>
>> Gloria Whipple
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 07:42
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Cc: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>    I'm originally from Massachusetts and am troubled to learn that if
>> indeed this is true a place like this still exists. There was an
>> outfit located in Jamaica Plane called the Boston Center for Blind
>> Children which although they didn't use electric shock to punish
>> students they used many other harsh methods such as holding someone in
>> a take-down by lying them on their stomachs, pulling their hands
>> behind their backs and sitting on them for what seemed like hours at a
>> time. I know because it happened to me for three long years. Other
>> harsh and abusive methods were used on occasion as well. If the JRC is
>> the successor to the Boston Center For Blind Children it's a shame
>> that this place is still in business. They should have been convicted of
> child abuse/endangerment and shut down many years ago.
>>
>>    This is all the more the reason to establish strong NOPBC
>> Affiliates in all 50 states including Massachusetts. It's better to
>> have a national network of parents of blind children to set the
>> standards for how blind kids are educated, and to serve as a
>> "Watch-dog" to ensure that outfits like the BCBC and the JRC are put
>> out of business so they will never harm another blind child!
>>
>>    While I would like to believe that this is not true as one who
>> personally experienced such abusive treatment by so-called schools for
>> the blind in Massachusetts it doesn't surprise me that an outfit like
>> this exists.
>>
>> Peter Donahue who hopes and prays that there will soon be an affiliate
>> of the National Organization of Parents of Blind Children in
>> Massachusetts to truly create a future full of possibilities for blind
> kids in the Bay State.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:26 AM
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>>
>>
>> I am passing this along in hopes that all will sign. This is just
>> unbelievable. Even my County Disability Coordinator shared this. Thanks.
>>
>> Sherri
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Samme.Ripley at ocfl.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:06 PM
>> Subject: FW: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>>
>>
>> Sharing........this video can be very compelling for those familiar
>> with electric shocking of disabled students in past years.
>>
>>
>>
>> .Samme
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sherri [mailto:flmom2006 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 6:00 PM
>> To: Ripley, Samme
>> Subject: Fw: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you know anything about this? This is outrageous if it's true!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sherri
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Jon Perri, Change.org
>>
>> To: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 4:39 PM
>>
>> Subject: Mass. school electrocutes blind girl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                  VIDEO: Special needs student electroshocked. Tell his
>> Massachusetts school to stop using electroshock devices on children.
>>
>>
>>
>>                  Sign Gregory's Petition
>>
>>
>>
>>            Sherri -
>>
>>            In 2002, a special needs student named Andre McCollins was
>> allegedly strapped down and electrocuted for hours, leaving him with
>> permanent brain damage, all because he refused to take off his jacket.
>> The people torturing Andre were officials at his school. You can watch
>> what happened on video.
>>
>>            The video was shot at a Massachusetts school for special
>> needs kids called the Judge Rotenberg Center (JRC). Gregory Miller
>> used to be a teacher there, and he says electrocuting kids as
>> punishment is extremely common -- even for minor offenses like raising
>> your hand to go to the bathroom.
>>
>>            "A non-verbal, nearly blind girl with cerebral palsy was
>> shocked for attempts to hold a staff member's hand -- her attempts to
>> communicate and to be loved," Gregory says.
>>
>>            Gregory desperately wants to help the kids at the JRC -
>> that's why he started a petition on Change.org demanding that the JRC
>> stop using electroshock to punish kids. Click here to add your name.
>>
>>            Gregory says the JRC's founder created electroshock devices
>> which are even stronger than police stun guns to punish students for
>> bad behavior. An official at the United Nations said that using these
>> devices on children is considered torture.
>>
>>            According to the Boston Globe, the JRC's founder resigned
>> after being charged with misleading a grand jury by destroying video
>> footage of other students being shocked.
>>
>>            Gregory believes that if thousands of people sign his
>> petition, his former bosses will capitulate in the intense pressure
>> generated by a national spotlight.
>>
>>            Click here to sign Gregory's petition demanding that the
>> JRC immediately cease its practice of punishing special needs kids
>> with electroshock devices.
>>
>>            Thanks for being a change-maker,
>>
>>            - Jon and the Change.org team
>>
>>            This email was sent by Change.org to flmom2006 at gmail.com   |
>> Start a petition
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>>
>>
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