[Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...

Sat Nov 10 19:00:21 UTC 2012

Very good point, and very true!!!

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...

> James:
>
> I agree with you completely on the importance of reading well and on the
> fact that a decreasing number of people (blind or sighted) read more than 
> a
> headline or two. It's going to catch up with us (society) eventually when 
> we
> wonder why China is out-innovating us and when the citizenry thinks
> Presidential debates are a substitute for understanding economics, foreign
> policy and the consequences of proposed governmental actions in detail.
>
> That said, I'm perfectly happy with a refreshable Braille display. It's
> getting the Braille that counts, not the form it takes. But all bets are 
> off
> when it comes to math Braille. Math Braille should *always* be on paper.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James 
> Kelm
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:16 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>
> Dear Jasmine and group...
>
>    It is nice to hear that so many folks still enjoy reading in general,
> and who enjoy reading the physical book format.  It is sad that so many
> people now days, both blind and sighted, simply do not read!  I personally
> think that they are missing so much, and while a lot of information can be
> gotten via the Internet and all of the magical forms of technology, it
> simply is not the same as actually reading a book.
>
>    Perhaps this will be controversial, and please know that I do not 
> intend
>
> for it to be!  I am simply stating my own personal opinion...  But I think
> that a large degree of social and occupational empowerment can be achieved
> by the blind, simply by actually having the skills to read.  Of course 
> this
> applies to reading refreshable Braille as well, but I know that for me
> personally, simply having the ability to sit down with a book or magazine
> has afforded me a nice feeling of equality and compatibility with the
> sighted world.  I think that it is a shame that so many young blind 
> people,
> are no longer being taught Braille in school!  It is nice to have the 
> luxury
>
> of when I want, not to have to depend on technology or other advancements
> such as this, but to actually sit down and read a book, magazine, or
> whatever.  Perhaps this is largely because I am of an age when books held
> actual power and a sort of magic.  There is an intimacy when you actually
> lay your hands on the words that an author has written, rather than having 
> a
>
> rather sterol relationship with technology.  Now don't misunderstand me! 
> I
> love my technology, and I spend way too much of my time on the Internet!
> But there is still something about grabbing a book off of the shelf, 
> sitting
>
> in my favorite armchair, and reading.  Also, I can read in bed at night,
> without having to bother my sighted wife.  LOLL  Sighted folks can't say
> that!  *smile*
>
>
> Respectfully Yours in Christ,
> James Kelm
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jasmine Kotsay" <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I couldn't agree with you more about having an actual hard-copy book to
>> read by the fire rather than a refreshable display.  I have a BrailleNote
>> Apex, and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I still love my hard-copy
>> books! LOL!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Jasmine
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:18:29 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>
>> Dear Judy,
>>
>>    I debated over getting an embosser VS.  something like a refreshable
>> Braille display, and I came to the following conclusion.  Firstly, I hope
>> to
>> produce material for other blind individuals, churches, etc.  With an
>> embosser I will be able to produce material that I can then pass on.
>>
>>    Secondly, and this may just be a matter of my old age...  LOLL  But
>> there is something magical about actually sitting down in the evening 
>> with
>> an actual physical book.  For some reason, and maybe this is again just a
>> matter of my experience, but the image of sitting down in front of a fire
>> in
>> the fire place in the evening, and holding a refreshable display on my
>> lap,
>> just doesn't have the same pizzazz.  LOLL
>>
>>
>> Respectfully in Christ,
>> James Kelm
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>
>>
>> Hi, James,
>>
>> I have the Juliet Pro 60 and have been very happy with it.  It's a real
>> workhorse and does a good job.
>>
>> As a braille user, I have to ask this question.  Rather than having all
>> the braille hard-copy taking up shelf room, do you have a note taker or a
>> portable device you can use on which to store digital files?
>>
>> I have a note taker for home and one for the office, and can carry all
>> electronic files on the note taker, or on a thumb drive to download as I
>> need them.
>>
>> Just curious.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:30 PM
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>    I am hoping that you will be able to assist me!  I am looking to make
>> a rather sizable purchase, and I am looking for advice on which machine
>> will best meet my needs, while also offering the most for the money.
>>
>>    First of all, let me tell you what uses I will be needing a new
>> embosser for...  First of all, as a pastor, I obviously present a Sunday
>> message each week.  So I would like to be able to produce my notes each
>> week on my computer, and then push a button to have my notes "printed"
>> out in Braille for use when I give my message.  These notes will range
>> from 3 to 10 pages of Braille at a time.
>>
>>    Secondly, I want to begin producing material for distribution to other
>> churches, organizations, etc.  This means that I will produce a book
>> ranging from 50 to 200 pages, and then I want to be able to "print" from
>> my computer the material that has been E-mailed to me via pdf, doc, etc
>> files.
>>
>>    Thirdly, of course within a professional office setting, there are a
>> number of different situations in which having the ability to print a
>> Braille copy of material would be of great use.  This would range from
>> copying an E-mail, copying study material that has been produced either
>> myself or others, etc.  I would not be producing great numbers of Braille
>> pages per week, but the quality and easy of use would be a huge plus!
>>
>>    The two embossers that I am looking at is the Index Basic-D V4, and
>> the Juliet Pro 60.
>>
>>    What are your impressions of these two machines, or do you have other
>> suggestions for me?  Also I should tell you that while I am quite capable
>> at general computer usage, I have never worked with an embosser before.
>> Do I need any additional equipment such as sound proofing boxes and such?
>> I understand that any embosser can be quite loud?
>>
>>    Thank you so much for your guidance in this matter!
>>
>>
>> Respectfully Yours in Christ,
>> James Kelm (senior pastor)
>> True Hope Church of Duluth
>> E-MAIL: office at thcduluth.org
>> Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
>> Phone: (218) 727-4186
>>
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