[Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
Jasmine Kotsay
jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com
Sun Nov 11 20:25:08 UTC 2012
Hi,
I agree that they are sooooo expensive! That's the bad part
about Braille. However, sometimes getting the technology to
read books from the internet is really expensive as well.
Without Braille, we have to use screen readers, recorders,
and Braille displays that cost hundreds and thousands of
dollars as well.
The one thing I always say about hard-copy Braille books, and
this is my own opinion, is that Braille books won't crash on you.
You don't have to plug them into anything to charge them. You
don't have to worry about them crashing on you when you need them
most. The only way Braille will crash is if you wet it. LOL!
You just have to get hold of the book, grab it off the shelf once
you've bought/borrowed it, and sit and read. No technological
attachments. I also love my technology, but I'll never stop
reading hard-copy Braille. :)
Sincerely,
Jasmine
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
My big complaint, is that Braille books are so darn expensive!
Of course
they can be gotten through the library, but it can be quite
expensive to buy
them. Then there is the problem with trying to find them in the
first
place. I have found only a couple of web sites that offer
Braille books for
adults. There seems to be more for children, but it can be a
challenge to
find Braille books for adults, and then when you do find them,
they are so
expensive that they are unattainable for many.
Respectfully Yours in Christ,
James Kelm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
I haven't been in the stacks for some twenty years!
Mike Freeman
-----Original Message-----
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Gary
Wunder
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:42 AM
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And don't forget the smell of books--just wonderful!
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
James
Kelm
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
Dear Jasmine and group...
It is nice to hear that so many folks still enjoy reading in
general,
and who enjoy reading the physical book format. It is sad that
so many
people now days, both blind and sighted, simply do not read! I
personally
think that they are missing so much, and while a lot of
information can be
gotten via the Internet and all of the magical forms of
technology, it
simply is not the same as actually reading a book.
Perhaps this will be controversial, and please know that I do
not
intend
for it to be! I am simply stating my own personal opinion...
But I think
that a large degree of social and occupational empowerment can
be achieved
by the blind, simply by actually having the skills to read. Of
course
this
applies to reading refreshable Braille as well, but I know that
for me
personally, simply having the ability to sit down with a book or
magazine
has afforded me a nice feeling of equality and compatibility
with the
sighted world. I think that it is a shame that so many young
blind
people,
are no longer being taught Braille in school! It is nice to
have the
luxury
of when I want, not to have to depend on technology or other
advancements
such as this, but to actually sit down and read a book,
magazine, or
whatever. Perhaps this is largely because I am of an age when
books held
actual power and a sort of magic. There is an intimacy when you
actually
lay your hands on the words that an author has written, rather
than having
a
rather sterol relationship with technology. Now don't
misunderstand me!
I
love my technology, and I spend way too much of my time on the
Internet!
But there is still something about grabbing a book off of the
shelf,
sitting
in my favorite armchair, and reading. Also, I can read in bed
at night,
without having to bother my sighted wife. LOLL Sighted folks
can't say
that! *smile*
Respectfully Yours in Christ,
James Kelm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jasmine Kotsay" <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
Hi,
I couldn't agree with you more about having an actual hard-copy
book to
read by the fire rather than a refreshable display. I have a
BrailleNote
Apex, and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I still love my
hard-copy
books! LOL!
Sincerely,
Jasmine
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:18:29 -0600
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
Dear Judy,
I debated over getting an embosser VS. something like a
refreshable
Braille display, and I came to the following conclusion.
Firstly, I hope
to
produce material for other blind individuals, churches, etc.
With an
embosser I will be able to produce material that I can then pass
on.
Secondly, and this may just be a matter of my old age...
LOLL But
there is something magical about actually sitting down in the
evening
with
an actual physical book. For some reason, and maybe this is
again just a
matter of my experience, but the image of sitting down in front
of a fire
in
the fire place in the evening, and holding a refreshable display
on my
lap,
just doesn't have the same pizzazz. LOLL
Respectfully in Christ,
James Kelm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:10 PM
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Hi, James,
I have the Juliet Pro 60 and have been very happy with it. It's
a real
workhorse and does a good job.
As a braille user, I have to ask this question. Rather than
having all
the braille hard-copy taking up shelf room, do you have a note
taker or a
portable device you can use on which to store digital files?
I have a note taker for home and one for the office, and can
carry all
electronic files on the note taker, or on a thumb drive to
download as I
need them.
Just curious.
Thanks.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kelm" <jameskelm at earthlink.net
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: [Blindtlk] Questions about embossers...
Dear friends,
I am hoping that you will be able to assist me! I am looking
to make
a rather sizable purchase, and I am looking for advice on which
machine
will best meet my needs, while also offering the most for the
money.
First of all, let me tell you what uses I will be needing a
new
embosser for... First of all, as a pastor, I obviously present
a Sunday
message each week. So I would like to be able to produce my
notes each
week on my computer, and then push a button to have my notes
"printed"
out in Braille for use when I give my message. These notes will
range
from 3 to 10 pages of Braille at a time.
Secondly, I want to begin producing material for distribution
to other
churches, organizations, etc. This means that I will produce a
book
ranging from 50 to 200 pages, and then I want to be able to
"print" from
my computer the material that has been E-mailed to me via pdf,
doc, etc
files.
Thirdly, of course within a professional office setting,
there are a
number of different situations in which having the ability to
print a
Braille copy of material would be of great use. This would
range from
copying an E-mail, copying study material that has been produced
either
myself or others, etc. I would not be producing great numbers
of Braille
pages per week, but the quality and easy of use would be a huge
plus!
The two embossers that I am looking at is the Index Basic-D
V4, and
the Juliet Pro 60.
What are your impressions of these two machines, or do you
have other
suggestions for me? Also I should tell you that while I am
quite capable
at general computer usage, I have never worked with an embosser
before.
Do I need any additional equipment such as sound proofing boxes
and such?
I understand that any embosser can be quite loud?
Thank you so much for your guidance in this matter!
Respectfully Yours in Christ,
James Kelm (senior pastor)
True Hope Church of Duluth
E-MAIL: office at thcduluth.org
Web Site: www.thcduluth.org
Phone: (218) 727-4186
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