[Blindtlk] devices was RE: introduction
Mike Freeman
k7uij at panix.com
Tue Sep 4 01:45:02 UTC 2012
Hi, chris.
The Optacon was the subject of a lot of hype. In fact, the fastest Optacon
users never got much beyond 100 or 120 words per minute. However, the only
real limit to what an Optacon could read was the comprehension of the human
brain. So I would argue that we didn't *have* many of the accessibility
concerns we do today because if the Optacon could display it and "it" --
whatever it was -- was relatively uniform (handwriting is not), one could
read it. So I disagree that the Optacon is obsolete.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices was RE: introduction
Hi Mike,
I agree with you about the Stream. As far as Humanware's tech support, ugh;
don't remind me! Thank God I've got a local Humanware distributor in my area
that actually provides good tech support. Once I found out that I'm their
customer, not Humanware's, and they're the ones who are supposed to provide
me with technical support, I don't even bother calling Humanware when I have
a problem with either my BrailleNote or my Stream.
As to the Optacon, you may be surprised to know that although I'm a
14-year-old freshman in high school, I do actually know what the Optacon is
and have seen one in action! The concept of it sort of reminds me of an
older KNFB Reader, although it conveys the information in a very different
way. I personally found it very difficult and tedious to read with, probably
because I'm a Braille guy and always have been. However, I'm sure that with
time and practice one can get relatively fast reading with the Optacon. I
can definitely see where it was a great piece of technology in the time when
it was new, but I think newer and better technology such as Braille
displays, scan-and-read software and screen readers has made the Optacon
obsolete.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 8:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices was RE: introduction
Jasmine:
I use a fancy windows 7 laptop with multiple sound cards and also an
external DECtalk USB synthesizer; the machine runs Windows 7 Home Premium.
Screen-readers are JAWS 13 and NVDA. I use a BraillesensePLUS B32 note-taker
from HIMS as well as a BookSense from HIMS. I use a Victor Reader Stream
which IMO overall is still the best portable DAISY player on the market even
though I'm not enamered of HumanWare's tech support other than for the
Stream at the moment. I use an iPhone 4. I also still have a working
Optacon. I suppose that about does it.
Mike Freeman
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 4:21 PM
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Subject: [Blindtlk] devices was RE: introduction
Hi Jasmine,
For me it's a BrailleNote Apex, a laptop running Windows 7 and JAWS 12, a
Victor Reader Stream, and (my favorite) an iPod Touch!
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 4:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
Hi,
No, I didn't expect it, but I'm
glad that this is a place both to talk seriously and have fun.
:)
I was wondering what types of
devices some of you use, such as BrailleNotes, computers with JAWS, or any
others. I've already asked a couple of you this question, and I know some
are on the BrailleNote list, but I'm curious.
Sincerely,
Jasmine
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Sun, 2 Sep 2012
19:18:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
Wow. I bet Jasmine didn't expect this when she joined us.
Again, welcome.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:14 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com> wrote:
Oh yeah! I'm really not afraid of anything. Haha. I'll even walk
outside in the snow barefooted, if I had to. My dad is the same way.
-----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 6:53 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
wow, Nikki, that's very cool!!! Do you go barefooted outside still?
Way back when that person asked whether or not blind people should go
barefooted, I answered that it depended on many things, but, never ever ever
blindness.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Sep 2, 2012, at 6:40 PM, "Nikki" <daizies304 at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hey Ray, I have been considered a barefoot kid all my life and now I'm in
my 30's loving it. LOL!
-----Original Message----- From: Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
Hey, another one.
Well, whether or not, welcome anyhow.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Sep 2, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
wrote:
That sounds great! I look forward to seeing some of the conversations that
go on.
As to going barefooted, as long as it's not freezing cold, I'm always
barefooted in the house. Outside, though... Not so much.
LOL!!
Sincerely,
Jasmine
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Sat, 1 Sep
2012 17:02:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
Oh, let's see.
One time, somebody asked the question as to whether a blind person should
go barefooted or not. Guess by my signature what I said.
Actually, I said that, whether or not a blind person does that may well
depend on many things; but, never should it depend on blindness.
Well, that's the lighter side. We do, however and very very often,
discuss some very serious matters here. Somebody wants help with something,
for example, we try to offer the best advice we can on the matter.
Important NFB news updates with respect to the NFB are posted here. IF our
help is needed with respect to various legislative matters, such requests
can be found here.
HTH.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Sep 1, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi!
That's great! What kinds of topics do you discuss? I think they had some
examples on the website, but I'm curious as to what other things are talked
about. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Sat, 1 Sep
2012 14:29:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] introduction
Well, Jasmine, welcome to the list. My name is Raymond; but, please call
me Ray. I insist.
Anyhow, we tend to have some interesting times on this list; by which I
mean, we usually all get along quite well and have discussions the like of
which you will find quite stimulating.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
On Sep 1, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
I wanted to introduce myself to this list. My name is Jasmine.
When I came upon the name of this list on the NFB website, I was immediately
interested. I have no sight, and I'm always curious to find out new things
about blind people.
Sincerely,
Jasmine
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