[Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Sep 10 21:47:09 UTC 2012


Hi Jasmine,

There is no Slate Pals section in the Ziegler, but I have heard 
of a thing called slate pals.  It's just like pen pals in the 
Ziegler, only that you're using a slate and stylus to write the 
letters back in forth in Braille.

Chris



 ----- Original Message -----
From: Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 14:07:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

I was wondering the same thing about the slate pals.

Sent from my iPod Touch

On Sep 8, 2012, at 8:34 PM, "Roger devin Prater" 
<r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:

 Hmm, what is this penpal thing they speak of? is it like a 
mailing list of actual physical mail? In braille? They didn't say 
much about it on the page or anywhere obvious I looked.
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nusbaum" 
<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction


 Hi Roger,

 Thanks for the explanation of the VOICE program.

 The Matilda Ziegler magazine is a weekly electronic magazine 
with all kinds
 of informative and entertaining articles of interest to blind 
people.  You
 can subscribe to it via email, read it online, or read it via 
NFB Newsline.
 Check out www.matildaziegler.com for more information and past 
magazines.
 It's one of my favorite magazines to read, and I highly 
recommend it.

 Chris

 P.S.  Please note that the Ziegler magazine isn't affiliated 
with the NFB or
 any other organization of or for the blind for that matter.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
 Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:34 PM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

 OK, well its not really a device, its a program on windows, 
simbian, and
 Android that can be ran using a camera glasses or a webcam of 
sorts, and a
 netbook/laptop for mobile usage.  Basically, it simulates true 
vision with
 loudness being brightness, pitch being how high something is 
compared to the
 camera's position, and how far left/right something is in the 
sterio field
 being how far to the left or right something is perspectively to 
the camera.

 I have tied it, and with the help of the kind folks at the 
seeingwithsound
 mailinglist, have found that the back of my bedroom door has 
some sort of
 dark collored markings on it, and that a headboard is a bunch of 
lines that
 go straight for a while ad then slant downwards.  and what is 
this magazine
 you speak of?
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction


 Hi Roger,

 I've heard of this device, but I don't think it works quite like 
the
 Optacon.  From what I read about it, it seemed like some kind of 
device
 that simulated the sense of sight by making the blind person 
feel like
 he/she is seeing the object being detected by the VOICE.  I was 
kind of
 intrigued by this technology, but couldn't quite wrap my head 
around
 how it works.  I would be interested to hear any firsthand 
accounts of
 how the technology works from anybody who has actually used the
 device.  By the way, I read about this device in an article in 
the
 Matilda Ziegler magazine a few months ago.

 Chris

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 On Behalf Of Roger devin Prater
 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:35 PM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

 Hmm, have any of you tried the vOICe? http://seeingwithsound.com 
It
 works, as far as I know about the opticon, like it, only it uses 
sound
 instead of tactiles, and is free.  http://seeingwithsound.come 
just in
 case I misspelled it the first time, LOL.
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
 To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Cc: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction


 Absolutely not! Translation into Braille means the unit would be
 telling you what it think it sees, not letting you interpret for
 yourself what the unit sees.

 Mike

 On Sep 8, 2012, at 17:06, "Chris Nusbaum" 
<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Mike and everyone,

 Now, wouldn't it be great if the Optacon was remade with a 
Braille
 display so you could read what the Optacon was scanning in 
Braille?
 This is purely hypothetical; I don't even know if it would be
 possible to do this.  But it would be very cool if it is 
possible!

 Chris

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Freeman
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:20 PM
 To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

 Jasmine:

 The Optacon doesn't actually read anything: you use the Optacon 
to
 read stuff using your own brain and fingers.  Some people can 
read
 handwriting; others cannot.  I never mastered that skill.  
However, I
 could read line drawings and some maps.  Judy Jones has given 
you a
 decent description of the Optacon.

 Mike


 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
 [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:23 PM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] devices RE: introduction

 Hi,
   Until now, I've never heard ofan
 Opticon.  It actually reads handwriting? What actually is an 
Opticon?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net

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