[Blindtlk] ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader

Sun Sep 16 19:12:26 UTC 2012

One further question: are the humans who do the solving unpaid volunteers or
are they paid? If the latter, are they being paid at least the Federal
minimum wage?

Mike

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From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:04 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader

Hello,

That is strange. I've used the Web for 15 years now and have never come
across a captcha with a timeout. In such a situation, I fear there would be
little option but to ask for sighted assistance. Between taking a screenshot
and sending/uploading it to ZCaptcha, and waiting for it to come back, a
minute would pass by easily. I believe it would be a close call even with
something like Webvisum.

The cases where the cost is refunded is when the screenshot was wrong
somehow, and the captcha either could not be read or was completely missing
from the screenshot. The problem I encounter with the cost being returned if
the captcha was wrong is that there is no way for me to verify that the
captcha was, in fact, wrong. There would be nothing preventing someone from
always marking the captcha as inaccurate in order to always get their money
back. This is why I hesitate to pursue this option. I am open to
suggestions, though. However, the cost is so little that it does not seem a
great issue.

I assure you that it is not a scam. We have many users already who can
testify to its authenticity and usefulness. The minimum refill amount is
$5.00, so the cost to try it out is minimal.

Regards,
Brandon Olivares

Azavia Technologies
New: ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:24 PM, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
>   Oh yes there are. Time-outs occur both on the Web and within software
applications. One I know about for sure only gives you 60 seconds to enter
the characters. Services such as Z Captcha would be very impractical in that
situation. I have also encountered Web sites where that happens.
> 
>   Folowing on to Mike's post someone has yet to answer the question of how
one gets their money back if they fail to decode the captcha or if the
time-out period expires before the captcha characters are returned. Having
answers to these questions would go a long way to determining whether this
is a useful service or a scam! It still smells like rotten fish to me.
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Olivares" 
> <programmer2188 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> To my knowledge, there is generally not a timeout with captchas. What I
suggest when filling out a form is, before filling out anything, take a
screenshot of the captcha image, send it to ZCaptcha, and only then begin to
fill out the form. By the time you are done, the captcha code should have
been extracted in most cases. You can e-mail your screenshot to ZCaptcha, so
you don't even have to leave the page you are on.
> 
> The return time for captchas in most cases, especially during the day, is
2-5 minutes, sometimes less and sometimes more depending on the difficulty
of the captcha. If the captcha is difficult, it goes through additional
iterations to ensure sufficient accuracy.
> 
> I hope this satisfactorily answers your question.
> 
> Regards,
> Brandon
> 
> Azavia Technologies
> New: ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:56 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sir:
>> 
>> How can one assure oneself that timely return of a CAPTCHA solution
occurs?
>> If the captcha SOLUTION IS RETURNED*AFTER* THE TIMEOUT, HOW CAN ONE 
>> GET ONE'S MONEY BACK?
>> 
>> Mike Freeman
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>> [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:29 AM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd like to announce the release of a new service for the blind, 
>> called ZCaptcha.
>> 
>> It works much the same as Webvisum, without being restricted to any 
>> particular browser since it is run as a remote service. It is a 
>> service that allows blind people to easily read captcha images.
>> 
>> Basically, you upload your screenshot to ZCaptcha, and in a few 
>> minutes you receive the captcha code in return. The accuracy has been 
>> very good so far with our existing users (25 to date since the launch
this week).
>> 
>> This is the only service of its kind that is available to all blind 
>> users regardless of environment. We expect it to be very useful for 
>> blind people, enabling them to more easily navigate Web forms that 
>> require captcha verification.
>> 
>> If you are unaware of captchas, you may find a description here:
>> http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/about.html
>> 
>> The address is here:
>> 
>> http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brandon
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