[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or insult anyone

Mon Apr 1 00:15:10 UTC 2013

What? This list will cease being the same without you!
At 12:02 PM 3/30/2013, you wrote:
>I am leaving the list cause I fundamentally disagree with all of you.
>I am disgusted with the level of apathy, vainity, hatred, bigotry,
>hypocracy, discrimination, arrogance and malice shown towards me that
>I'm never ever going to resign up for NFB-Talk ever again. I really
>hope you all have the worse Easter cause of not helping in real need
>is just unexcusable. Don't e-mail me off list nor talk about me from
>this point onward.
>
>
>Bye,
>Peter
>btw: I'll never be a NFB heartless person ever.
>
>On 3/30/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> > Moreover, it doesn't have anything to do with blindness, any more than
> > discussing shoes of men, women or horses has to do with blindness.
> >
> > ENOUGH ALREADY!
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Constance
> > Canode
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:53 AM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> > insult anyone
> >
> > I am with you Gloria.  I would be happy to discuss my shoes off list with
> > any interested woman, but discussing it with a cross dresser creeps me out!
> >
> >
> > Constance Canode
> > Sent from my I-phone
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Cheryl,
> >>
> >> Thanks so much for posting that.
> >>
> >> I agree with you ho heartedly.
> >>
> >> Gloria Whipple
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
> >> echevarria
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:15
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> >> insult anyone
> >>
> >> Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this division
> > and
> >> this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2 weeks are
> >> some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover and easter,
> >> which
> >> just means we should be kind to each other not just this week but all the
> >> time.
> >> We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
> >> Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and think
> > either
> >> good or bad thoughts.
> >> We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always trying to
> >> post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on insulting anyone
> >> that doesn't know me personally.
> >> When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on the
> >> phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the phone
> > being
> >> rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2 different things.
> >> So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want it
> >> to
> >> come out.
> >> I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep here
> > in
> >> NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first came and I
> >> was
> >> one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
> >> In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has
> >> heard
> >> New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are totally the
> >> opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl Jacobsen says we
> >> will even through in the shoes and socks if you need them as well.
> >> Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are direct
> >> people and get to the point.
> >> So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person personally,
> >> then we should take what we write as help and not trying to insult or put
> >> people down.
> >> I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I have a
> >> heart and it can be broken.
> >> Please be kind to one another.
> >> God bless and enjoy each other.
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >>
> >> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
> >> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
> >> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
> >>
> > 
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
> >> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012 Norwegian Cruise Line
> >> University Advisory Board Member.
> >> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> >> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation
> > of
> >> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
> >> http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
> > vacation
> >> package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must
> > be
> >> traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to
> > the
> >> affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for
> >> families
> >> and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the
> >> affiliate
> >> as well.  You do not need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book
> >> through
> >> us.
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
> >>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
> >>>
> >>> Peter,
> >>>
> >>> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free to
> >> come
> >>> and go as you please.
> >>>
> >>> Gloria Whipple
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> >> Wolfe
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
> >>>
> >>> Ray,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
> >>> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
> >>> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet your
> >>> more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
> >>> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
> >>> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me anyways
> >>> cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no rational person
> >>> would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun and can't be
> >>> myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive like Stalin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bye and blocking you now Ray
> >>>
> >>> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> >>>> This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just my
> >>>> opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think you're about done.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >> blind
> >>>> built-in!
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Constance,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them? I
> >>>>> own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk to them
> >>>>> is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy the big stuff
> >>>>> doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny and Chip the
> >>>>> chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting with my dolls almost
> >>>>> on a daily basis as well and don't care what you all think either for
> >>>>> it! Where all have you traveled to with your husband and without him?
> >>>>> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country like The
> >>>>> Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port Canaveral which is
> >>>>> no where near Orlando, Florida like they said it was.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys something
> >>>>> that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay marriage
> >>>>> myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm advocating
> >>>>> for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't understand why
> >>>>> people are against equal rights especially as one minority has aided
> >>>>> the other minority with it in kin. Some of the nices people are gays
> >>>>> that is from personal experience just seems wrong. I guess this is an
> >>>>> annoying thing as it relates to political machine today that nobody
> >>>>> can agree even on basic dignity anymore.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm curious
> >>>>> cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like baseball,
> >>>>> nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to be a forward
> >>>>> point guart as a sighted person and can't stand spectator sports
> >>>>> anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some soccer or vollyball or
> >>>>> something. Do you know what sport that I'm interested in now? I don't
> >>>>> know whether that I could do it or not but ballet? I am really into
> >>>>> yoga right now not sure whether that is a sport but doubt it. Anyways,
> >>>>> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping the
> >>>>> other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting area.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> see ya,
> >>>>> Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in liberal
> >>>>>> political
> >>>>>> issues.  I also enjoy reading, television, movies and music and of
> >>>>>> course
> >>>>>> technology and try to learn something new all the time  I love
> >> shopping
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
> >> husband
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off work.  I
> >> am
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> sports fanatic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Constance Canode
> >>>>>> Sent from my I-phone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear NFB members,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm asking
> >>>>>>> cause I find myself with nothing to do till my counseling becomes
> >> more
> >>>>>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I like
> >>>>>>> history, political science, news, traveling, trying new cuisines,
> >>>>>>> agriculture, programming websites, talking, researching, reading,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> learning are just a few things that I enjoy. Believe it or not that
> >>>>>>> I've been traveling on train, boat, car, airplane and bus throughout
> >>>>>>> this country! Yes, I've even been on a cruise line with almost being
> >>>>>>> thrown off the cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that
> >>>>>>> was as I was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
> >>>>>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on that
> >>>>>>> one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile spirited way
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>> else just don't reply.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Cordially,
> >>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> >> anything"
> >>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>>>>>> Bob Marley
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Cordially,
> >>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>>>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> >>>>> anything"
> >>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>>>> Bob Marley
> >>>>>
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> >>> --
> >>> Cordially,
> >>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> >>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>> Bob Marley
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>--
>Cordially,
>Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>cum laude Auburn University
>e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>Peter Q Wolfe
>"Stand up for your rights"
>Bob Marley
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