[Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Kelby Carlson kelbycarlson at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 16:51:14 UTC 2013


Dr.  Jernigan has a book? Do you know what it's called, and where 
it can be found? Sorry for the off-topic message, but I don't 
think I was aware of this.

Kelby



 ----- Original Message -----
From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:40:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Being independent is also knowing when to ask for help on your 
own terms and not someone elses.
Dr.  Jernigan's book goes into that as well.
He even did a Banquet Speech, again before I became an NFB member 
maybe some of you old timers LOL.  Who knew Dr.  Jernigan would 
know this one where he got letters from some blind students 
asking him why he goes sighted guide and doesn't use his cane.
He of course did a few jokes about it, but when he got down to it 
he told the young person who wrote him, sometimes he has to go 
sighted guide to get there faster than using his cane, or he 
might be late for a meeting or something.
He said it is no shame in asking for help, we all need it 
sometimes, even those that are sighted.
It is funny when I used to be able to drive before the gps where 
in place, that if i got lost I asked for help.
Or if I couldn't find something the store I asked for help.
It's just knowing when to ask for something, then people assuming 
you need the help.

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 From: julielj at neb.rr.com
 To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:27:00 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Justin,

 If it is at all possible I find an employee or someone I'm with 
to tell me
 what's what on the buffet.  I'll wing it alone, if I can't find 
anyone, but
 I don't like doing that.

 I did receive blindness training at the Nebraska Commission for 
the Blind.
 I learned a lot of stuff there, but I also learned how to learn.  
I mean I
 learned how to ask for the information I need, how to advocate 
for myself,
 how to problem solve and how to have dignity left when what I 
tried flopped
 miserably!  *smile*  I had most of those skills to one degree or 
another
 before training, but daily intense practice sharpened, refined 
and enhanced
 them in rapid fashion.

 I learn by trial and error and necessity.  I have failed at many 
things I've
 tried.  Some I tried again and had better luck.  Others I 
decided weren't
 for me.  There are still things I can't do, but would like to 
master.

 I read Braille at a miserable 30 words per minute.  I cannot 
cook fried
 chicken to save my life.  I am freaked out by airports.  I have 
worn
 mismatched socks! *smile*  I still use and practice Braille.  I 
still try
 cooking fried chicken every now and then.  I still travel 
through airports,
 even though I don't like it.  I have learned better methods of 
matching
 socks, so I think that is pretty much solved.

 You have to just keep putting yourself out there.  It's a 
process and nobody
 is perfect, sighted or blind.  We are all learning.

 all my best to you,
 Julie


 -----Original Message-----
 From: justin williams
 Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:58 AM
 To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Sometimes, I see you guys on here and feel like I missed out on 
some
 valuable  skill training somewhere.  I'm not under these 
illusions that I'm
 the best because there aren't very many blind people with my 
skillset n
 columbia.  If you listen to the sighted, as they heap praise 
that you don't
 really deserve  upon you you may think that.  I hope you folks 
have learned
 as much from me as I have you.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Julie J.
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: Blind Talk Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 Kelby,

 I've found that if I have a choice I prefer to go through a 
buffet on the
 side that puts my guide dog furthest from the buffet.  I'm not 
worried about

 him being inappropriate, sniffing or snatching food, but if he 
is in between

 me and the food, it means that I have to reach over and it's 
awkward.   He
 always positions himself parallel to the buffet, so as I'm 
facing the buffet

 he's at a 90 degree angle to me, standing behind me.  When I'm 
ready to move

 I turn to line up correctly with the direction of travel, tell 
him to "step
 up" which is something I taught him which means that he should 
proceed only
 a step or two.

 At buffets with regular plates I have filled and carried them 
myself.   Put
 small items like napkins, utensils and straws in a pocket if you 
can, it
 saves valuable hand real estate!  I make multiple trips to get a 
drink,
 soup, dessert etc., rather than trying to make one mega trip.

 The only place I've encountered the tray type of buffet was on a 
college
 cafeteria last summer when I was attending a leadership training 
thing.  I
 found it best for me to ask for assistance in that situation to 
carry my
 tray.  There were lots of little islands, some self service, 
some with staff

 behind the counter who would take your order.  I think if I were 
a regular
 college student I would have figured out what was what and been 
able to do
 more myself, but for the three days I was there it worked out 
fine.

 Oh, almost all of the time I find a sighted person to let me 
know what the
 food choices are, but generally I fill my own plate.  Working my 
guide dog
 with food in my other hand hasn't been a problem.  Of course I 
can't use
 hand signals so I have to be mindful to be clear with verbal 
directions.  He

 knows both, but responds a bit better with hand signals.  Still 
it hasn't
 been a problem.  As much as is possible I try to keep my plate 
held in front

 of my body, not off to the side, because the guide dog isn't 
going to factor

 in the additional width.  Of course a dog can be taught to 
account for
 something  additional on your right side, like a large bag or a 
baby
 stroller you are pulling, but this requires training and 
practice.

 Anyhow that's how I manage.  I hope others will share some 
ideas.  Buffets
 are not one of my favorite things.  Some more ideas would be 
great!
 Julie



 -----Original Message-----
 From: Kelby Carlson
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:26 AM
 To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Subject: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

 (This may have already been sent; e-mail is glitching.)

 I wish I could come to Maryland, as I'd love to know how y'all 
do
 buffet lines.  (Especially when their are trays and guide dogs
 involved.)

 Kelby S.  Carlson

 Vanderbilt University


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