[Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?

Thu Apr 4 04:43:25 UTC 2013

What's this indoor mapping iPhone app? Is it designed for blind people
or just a mainstream app?
Arielle

On 4/3/13, David Evans <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> I still have hope for indoor navigation apps as long as I can get direction,
>
> position location, distance and points of interest information and maybe a
> audio description of the area, its shape, size and location of Poi's within
>
> it, it may give me enough info to go on instead of using a sighted guide.
> If I can find my gate, know if it is on the left or right, ahead of me or
> behind me, how far and maybe have a method of telling me if I am veering off
>
> cores to the left or right, it could work for me.
> Afterall, I never thought that we would see a way that we could use a touch
>
> screen interface either until Apple did it with the I-Phone.
> Now I use one.  See you can teach an old dog new tricks as long as he is
> willing to learn and has an open mind.
> I think that one day we will have the technology that will guide us around
> every good as sighted people do now.
> I know that cars can and will be able to drive themselves and that Blind
> people will own and use them someday.
> I have seen many amazing things happen in my lifetime and I just hope that I
>
> live to see us land people on Mars and have a base on the Moon.
> Heck, I would like to live to be a tourist to the Moon, just to see how my
> Lunar Rovers have held up to the elements of space since they were parked
> for the last time after Apollo Missions 15, 16 and 17.
>
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>
>
>> David:
>>
>> I'm one of those doubting Thomases who thinks indoor mapping iPhone apps
>> won't be nearly as useful as many people think.
>>
>> We shall see.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
>> Evans
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:24 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>> I was a cane driver for some 25 years, but now use a guide dog as my main
>> travel tool, However.I have had airport personnel grab hold of my cane
>> before, in an attempt to lead me  or prevent me from making contact with
>> someone or something.
>> I tell them that it is the same as putting their hand over my "eyes" and
>> to
>> please stop it and if there is something I need to be aware of, just to
>> say
>> something, but do not grab my cane unless they want to wear it as a nose
>> stopper.
>> I try to educate people first and be polite, but if they do not learn
>> fast,
>> I have a way of speeding up their education.
>> I have rights and I have dignity and I will not let anyone take them away
>> from me without a fight or a reeducation.
>> Most airline people are afraid or very respectful of my guide dog as they
>> still buy into the idea that he is also trained as a attack dog if some
>> one
>> gives me a hard time and I am not working that hard to change their minds
>>
>> if
>> they are doing a bad job of helping me.
>> I can hardly wait until the indoor navigation app for my I-Phone is
>> ready.
>> I am sure that airports will be one of the places that they make
>> accessible.
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>>
>>
>>> Oh, you've had that happen too, have you?  One really has to wonder when
>>> that happens why the person doing it doesn't realize immediately how
>>> undignified that feels.  The cane is not a leash, or a tether, or a pole
>>> attaching two people.  I just gently grab it back and tell the person,
>>> "No, that's okay, I'm fine."  One of those situations where we ask the
>>> Lord to please give us strength and patience.
>>>
>>> Mark Tardif
>>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Daniel Garcia
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:51 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>>>
>>> Bonnie:
>>>
>>> Another thing that annoys me is when I am walking beside a sighted
>>> family
>>> member or friend and they grab the came because there are people coming
>>> the
>>> other direction. The whole point of the cane is for it to find things. I
>>> don't swing my cane with such force that I would hurt anyone, but they
>>> can't
>>> help but grab my cane.
>>>
>>> Sigh.......
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie
>>> Ainsworth
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:15 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>>>
>>> Those of us who are cane users feel the same way, Daniel.  I won't let
>>> anyone take my cane from me.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Daniel Garcia" <dangarcia3 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I am sure a blind pilot could be instrument verified if the cokpit
>>> was
>>> accessible. I am sure there could even be a way to land the thing.
>>>
>>> When you say I can have my cane stored in fuselage, does that mean next
>>> to
>>> me in my seat? If these people are so concerned about safety, I feel
>>> safer
>>> with my cane at all times. My cane is like an American Express Card, I
>>> never
>>> leave home without it.
>>>
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