[Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Fri Apr 5 15:10:38 UTC 2013

Well, here's an idea for yuh.  Take subjects that some don't think the blind can deal with that you know as a fact you have dealt with or are dealing with, and answer back.  Take buffet lines, for example.  Say how you deal with them and then move along to something else.  Heck, you might even use the dreaded subject of dining in the dark as a springboard in to it.

Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:17 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the vote of confidence!  I appreciate your encouragement. Perhaps I could write something for the Monitor.  I hadn't really considered it before.  I'll have to think about it.  any suggestions on topics you'd be particularly interested in?
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:05 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Hi, Julie. It is amazing how much of your message shows real humility and
> does not say "I know it all, and it's all easy," but "I have enough
> confidence in myself to believe I can figure it out, that it may take me
> more than one try, and I refused to be embarrassed or cowed into passivity
> just because I don't want to violate my comfort zone. You must must must
> write something for the Monitor.
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:27 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Justin,
> 
> If it is at all possible I find an employee or someone I'm with to tell me
> what's what on the buffet.  I'll wing it alone, if I can't find anyone, but
> I don't like doing that.
> 
> I did receive blindness training at the Nebraska Commission for the Blind.
> I learned a lot of stuff there, but I also learned how to learn.  I mean I
> learned how to ask for the information I need, how to advocate for myself,
> how to problem solve and how to have dignity left when what I tried flopped
> miserably!  *smile*  I had most of those skills to one degree or another
> before training, but daily intense practice sharpened, refined and enhanced
> them in rapid fashion.
> 
> I learn by trial and error and necessity.  I have failed at many things I've
> tried.  Some I tried again and had better luck.  Others I decided weren't
> for me.  There are still things I can't do, but would like to master.
> 
> I read Braille at a miserable 30 words per minute.  I cannot cook fried
> chicken to save my life.  I am freaked out by airports.  I have worn
> mismatched socks! *smile*  I still use and practice Braille.  I still try
> cooking fried chicken every now and then.  I still travel through airports,
> even though I don't like it.  I have learned better methods of matching
> socks, so I think that is pretty much solved.
> 
> You have to just keep putting yourself out there.  It's a process and nobody
> is perfect, sighted or blind.  We are all learning.
> 
> all my best to you,
> Julie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: justin williams
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:58 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Sometimes, I see you guys on here and feel like I missed out on some
> valuable  skill training somewhere.  I'm not under these illusions that I'm
> the best because there aren't very many blind people with my skillset n
> columbia.  If you listen to the sighted, as they heap praise that you don't
> really deserve  upon you you may think that.  I hope you folks have learned
> as much from me as I have you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:51 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Kelby,
> 
> I've found that if I have a choice I prefer to go through a buffet on the
> side that puts my guide dog furthest from the buffet.  I'm not worried about
> 
> him being inappropriate, sniffing or snatching food, but if he is in between
> 
> me and the food, it means that I have to reach over and it's awkward.   He
> always positions himself parallel to the buffet, so as I'm facing the buffet
> 
> he's at a 90 degree angle to me, standing behind me.  When I'm ready to move
> 
> I turn to line up correctly with the direction of travel, tell him to "step
> up" which is something I taught him which means that he should proceed only
> a step or two.
> 
> At buffets with regular plates I have filled and carried them myself.   Put
> small items like napkins, utensils and straws in a pocket if you can, it
> saves valuable hand real estate!  I make multiple trips to get a drink,
> soup, dessert etc., rather than trying to make one mega trip.
> 
> The only place I've encountered the tray type of buffet was on a college
> cafeteria last summer when I was attending a leadership training thing.  I
> found it best for me to ask for assistance in that situation to carry my
> tray.  There were lots of little islands, some self service, some with staff
> 
> behind the counter who would take your order.  I think if I were a regular
> college student I would have figured out what was what and been able to do
> more myself, but for the three days I was there it worked out fine.
> 
> Oh, almost all of the time I find a sighted person to let me know what the
> food choices are, but generally I fill my own plate.  Working my guide dog
> with food in my other hand hasn't been a problem.  Of course I can't use
> hand signals so I have to be mindful to be clear with verbal directions.  He
> 
> knows both, but responds a bit better with hand signals.  Still it hasn't
> been a problem.  As much as is possible I try to keep my plate held in front
> 
> of my body, not off to the side, because the guide dog isn't going to factor
> 
> in the additional width.  Of course a dog can be taught to account for
> something  additional on your right side, like a large bag or a baby
> stroller you are pulling, but this requires training and practice.
> 
> Anyhow that's how I manage.  I hope others will share some ideas.  Buffets
> are not one of my favorite things.  Some more ideas would be great!
> Julie
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:26 AM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> (This may have already been sent; e-mail is glitching.)
> 
> I wish I could come to Maryland, as I'd love to know how y'all do buffet
> lines.  (Especially when their are trays and guide dogs
> involved.)
> 
> Kelby S.  Carlson
> 
> Vanderbilt University
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
> 
> 
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5717 - Release Date: 03/31/13
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gma
> il.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
> 
> 
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5718 - Release Date: 04/01/13
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/gwunder%40earthlink.ne
> t
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/julielj%40neb.rr.com
> 
> 
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5724 - Release Date: 04/04/13 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> blindtlk mailing list
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindtlk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/rforetjr%40att.net