[Blindtlk] mobile phone

[justin williams]

I'm with Verizon; I neef to find out what they have.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:56 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] mobile phone

I totally agree.  After having the iPhone for almost a year, the LG Optimus
G phone I have was very easy to work with.  Since we're with AT&T, the
Mobile Accessibility screen access is free of charge, and can be downloaded
from the Google Pllay Store, and uses the vocalizer voices, i.e. the same
voice used in Apple's VoiceOver.

All Android devices now use this speech, but also have TalkBack built in.  I
have tried them both and find them very easy to use.

I've only had this device a couple of weeks, but am very happy with it.

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Freeman
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:24 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] mobile phone

Justin:

In my opinion, the iPhone 5 is still the most accessible smartphone on the
market although various Android phones are becoming increasingly accessible.
The website you're looking for is <www.atguys.com>.

However, I'm going to have to disabuse you of a couple of notions. First,
although that miniature keyboard is cute and useful, it's not for the
faint-of-heart or the beginner as it is small and some keys do double-duty.
IMO you'd be better off to start with using a full-size Apple Bluetooth
keyboard; you can keep it in its box when not in use and it fits nicely into
a backpack.

The second notion is that you can use a keyboard in place of learning the
iPhone's VoiceOver gestures; you cannot. Some of the phone functions cannot
be done using only the keyboard. Better in my view to get the NBP books on
the iPhone and just plunge in, telling yourself that you're going to learn
those gestures before you eat your next prime rib dinner or buy yourself a
beer or whatever it takes for you to stay on-task of learning the gestures.
In other words, there is no easy way out. This goes double for android
phones. They're often more geeky than iPhones are in connecting devices. Or
so I am told by people whom I respect.

I'm not trying to change your mind so much as I'm telling you that your
expectations are unrealistic. Keyboards are great and have their place but
they won't substitute for buckling down and learning your phone.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
williams
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:30 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: [Blindtlk] mobile phone

Good afternoon.  I am about to get another phone in the next couple of
weeks.  Is the eye phone five the most accessible and app friendly, or are
their others which I should consider.  Also, I would like an accessible blue
tooth keyboard to go with the phone for texting in public places.  I've lost
the web site with the 44 dollar keyboards which were available due to
several computer changes in the last several months.  Can anyone give me
that site for the mobile phone keyboards, or recommend another?  Before
anyone starts asking about use of a blue tooth keyboard for the mobile
phone, please respect that I have made a personal choice, and that I will
learn the gestures in time, but I'm not interested in pressuring myself
while I am in school.

Thank you for your answers.

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