[Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer

Wed Dec 4 02:21:52 UTC 2013

Mark,
	Though I appreciate the questions you have raised, I believe that
they are not founded in any issues, past or current, as it relates to the
national leadership. Should such a thing happen, there are provisions in our
constitution to remedy such challenges and, I believe, the board of
directors would deal wit them handily!

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 4:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer

Marion,

I hear what you are saying, and I think you raise valid points.  But, if we
do not shake up the leadership from time to time, while recognizing that
there is a need for leaders with Strong Federation philosophies, is there
not the threat that our leaders will become isolated from the people?  Also,
is there not the threat that leaders will simply take for granted that they
can do what they like regarding policy pretty much regardless of the wish of
the body politic?  I just think these are things to consider, and are we not
supposed to be a grass roots organization?  Again, just things to consider.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
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From: National Association of Guide Dog Users
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:21 PM
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Dear All,
It only makes good organizational and managerial sense to maintain a sound
line of leadership for any organization. One of the characteristics that
makes the NFB such an influential player in the disability rights arena is
its strong management and continuity of leadership. Leaving the leadership
of a multi million dollar nonprofit corporation to chance just doesn't make
good business sense.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala

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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Merryfield
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 6:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer

Hi,
I do not see Mr. Maurer's supporting Mr. Riccobono and his subsequent
election as a formality. Whoever leads us when Mr. Maurer steps down needs
to have many of the qualities Mr. tenBroek, Dr. Jernigan, Mr. Maurer and
others had, plus a thorough understanding of how to lead the NFB. Any of us
out here might not possess those qualities and we certainly do not know the
inner workings of the NFB.  It would be scary, and possibly disastrous,  if
someone were elected President who wasn't fully prepared and ready to lead
us.

Personally, I'd like to see an open-minded  female finally lead the NFB,
but, then, I'd like to see a liberal female run the USA, too, for a change.
But that isn't happening yet.  So we're still behind the times.

I am thinking that Mr. Riccobono, though I do not know him, is probably the
best one to lead us in the future. I do trust Mr. Maurer's and the National
Board's thinking on most things, therefore, I do not feel as if Mr.
Riccobono's stepping up to the Presidency as  only a formality. I'm sure he
has been being prepared for this for some time, so it is no overnight
decision on Mr. Maurer's part.

I'm sure glad it isn't me. I am happy to let someone serve in that position
and I do feel that my vote would count, were I able to attend the National
Convention next summer, which I won't. Not unless I rob a big bank, haha.
Many blessings,
Laurenthe

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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret
Jr
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer

Paul, You seem, with respect, to be implying that one must choose between
lack of transparency and a good program for the blind or else full
transparency and a bad program for the blind.  I do not agree.  Here is what
I think will go down.  Maurer will support Riccobono and then, when it comes
convention time, and time to elect the next president, Riccobono will be
chosen by acclamation without any competition.  Now, if one were to take
this process strictly in parliamentary terms, it would be impossible to
quarrel with its legitimacy.  My concern, to speak frankly, is this.  That
looks too much like a mere hand off instead of a legitimate election.
Smooth?  Yes.  Efficient?  You'd better believe it.  Morally right?  Well,
that's where I have a slight problem.  I'm not saying that this way of doing
it is completely wrong:  however, when you have a process that looks too
much like you're just handing it off, you might as well not even bother with
the formality of election.  Just might as well go ahead and crown Riccobono
king of the movement.  I just do not feel terribly comfortable with the way
things look like they're going to happen.  Call me a traitor to the movement
if you will:  but,  'Tain't no skin off my nose.  Look, this procedure just
don't set to well with me.

I ain't sayin that President Mauer can't support whom he pleases, and I
ain't sayin he can not publically say whom he supports nor that he can't
urge the members to back his choice:  But, to just do a hand off and have
the election as a mere formality really bugs me.

Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Dec 1, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Paul Wick <wickps at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ray that's how things have always been in the Federation In the world 
> of the organized blind there is an organization that while it lacks 
> transparency has a strong program, while another has democratic forms, 
> but is kind of an empty suit when it comes to the programming 
> department; I would rather be part of the former than the latter. I 
> wish President-designate Riccobono well, and may he reach out to all 
> the unaffiliated blind people rather than just preaching to the choir.
>
> Best,
>
> Paul
>
> On 12/1/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I should like to pint out that there seems to be an assumption upon 
>> the part of the top NFB leadership that Mark
>>>
>>> Riccobono will sort of just be given the presency of the federation.
>>> That strikes me as not being the proper democratic way to do things.
>>> To assume that just because Doctor Maurer personally supports Mark 
>>> Riccobono for president he will just sort of be handed the 
>>> presidency by Dr. Maurer and the election of Mark Riccobono a mere 
>>> formality strikes me as being very improper.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 12:44 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> Riccobono
>>
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