[Blindtlk] learning Jaws

Mark Tardif markspark at roadrunner.com
Wed Mar 20 00:13:37 UTC 2013


I use JAWS, and like it, but I do know some people who prefer Window-Eyes. 
I suspect your learning more than one screenreader is probably not a bad 
thing because while agencies such as the Internal Revenue Service purchase 
JAWS, you just never know when you might run into an employer who has blind 
employees who use Window-Eyes, and you will be grateful that you know it. 
So, may I gently suggest that you try to think differently about having 
learned Window-Eyes in the past, and instead of looking at it as a possible 
set up for failure, try to imagine that not only will it not hurt, but it 
might benefit you.  Just my opinion.



Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: David Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 6:08 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] learning Jaws

Window-Eyes is not as bad as you make it out to be.  It is a good
screen reader -- just not the market leader.  Unless you have no
aptitude for computers, learning a new screen reader isn't the end of
the world.  Many of the concepts and principles are transferrable.

Don't set yourself up for failure -- just get on with it.

Dave

At 10:13 PM 3/18/2013, you wrote:
>David,
>
>
>     YIn hine sight, Jaws is the more powerful screen reader with
>numerous functionality and script writing that GW-Micro simply doesn't
>have. I wish that my Vocational Rehabilitation counselors would have
>informed me of this reality not allow me to learn it on my own.
>Instead the assistive technology instructors at E.H Gentry in Alabama
>being experimental just allowed me to blindly use window-eyes.
>Honestly I feel like I was setup for failure cause at that time that
>hardly anybody thought that I'd graduate from community college and
>ultimately get a scholarship from a major four year university like
>Auburn. I agree with all of your statements David that Window-Eyes for
>all intensive purposes is like Apple for personal usage and Jaws is
>better for professional usages so W.E is just a toy at this point in
>time.
>
>
>     How long do you guys or gals think it will take to learn Jaws with
>skills enough for a entry level in the federal government? I'm a
>pretty quick learner like four months is all it took for me to learn
>braille literary I and II with contractions and that is pretty fast
>for Gentry. I'm also the first blind student to come threw their halls
>to pass the GED the first time too! I
>'m looking at perhaps a week of evaluation, four weeks of Jaws and
>food preparation training with a little outside orientation and
>mobility and perhaps a three month temporary work paid experience with
>a federal agency whether Social Security, Veterns Administration,
>Department of Treasury or Labor that could perhaps lead to a perminent
>job with those agencies! Any ideas or suggestions on the screen reader
>or programs to consider or what Windows application to master with
>Jaws would be nice. I don't know whether to try to push the braille
>display or if just the IRS TSR or other jobs only require it or what
>the emphasis should be on. This is my challenge being blind that I
>don't know without any clear guidelines of the usajobs.gov job
>descriptions of what applications they use. However, I do know
>Microsoft word, Excell and internet explorer are musts in any federal
>job.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Peter
>
>On 3/18/13, David Thomas <david.w.thomas at me.com> wrote:
> > I believe that learning jaws is paramount to a blind persons success.
> >
> > Yes there is window-eyes but that is not the most popular screen reader.
> > Jaws is used in the government and in most businesses.
> >


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