[Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Justin and everyone,

    Tell that to Fidelco, Leader Dogs, and a few others.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup


No I was just agreeing that maybe if you wanted, you could cut down the high
tech equipment in the facility for the trainees.  You don't have too.  I am
a firm believer that the owners of the dogs should be given fair treatment,
and be allowed to keep the dog.  Furthermore, there need's to be evidence if
you are to remove the dog.  That is not something you do lightly.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Donahue
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:34 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup

Good afternoon everyone,

    Pamper the dogs but to Hell with their owner's rights! And this from
those calling themselves federationists?

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup


No, pamper the dogs.  They work hard and they deserve it.  I like the other
stuff you said though.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:08 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup

I think the answer to protecting the dogs is two fold.  First I would
like to see a more in depth background investigation of the blind
applicant.  Do a criminal background check, require more references, ask
the neighbors...whatever it takes.  Adoption agencies place children
into homes surely we can figure out a way to more accurately know what
sort of situation the dog will be placed into.  Secondly, I think there
are already agencies in place for dealing with animal abuse, the police
and animal control.  I don't see any reason why these agencies can't be
used in cases of neglect or abuse.

In regard to cost and the blind applicant absorbing the cost of the dog
in order to own the dog outright is an extremely valid point.  We have
to stop expecting everything for nothing.  I like the Seeing Eye's
concept of charging the student.  I do wish that the cost had increased
over the years with the cost of living.  It has been $150 since the
beginning of the school in 1928.  I think that's the right year.  $150
was a very different sum of money then and now.

I also think that guide dogs can be raised and trained for substantially
lower sums of money than $60,000.  If you look at the various guide dog
programs and how much each claims it costs to train a dog, the numbers
vary widely.  All those buildings, fancy food, excessive equipment and
other niceties cost money.

Julie


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