[Blindtlk] Professions on list?

[Mike Freeman]

Peter:

 

Have you checked out the "how-to" videos on the Washington State School for
the Blind <http://www.wssb.wa.gov/>  web site? Also, have you looked at
http://www.blindhow.com <http://www.blindhow.com/>  for tips and tricks?

 

In seeking to learn techniques, please bear in mind that, despite what some
authorities may tell you, there is no standard technique to do particular
activities as a blind person. There is a general consensus that there are
certain efficient ways to do things but in the end, you do what works for
you as long as it is efficient. As a trivial example, I know rehab teachers
who have heart-attacks watching me plug something into an outlet, believing
that I am courting a shock. Yet I don't think I've been bitten more than
anyone else has.

 

On another topic, some statistics packages work better than others using
screen-reading technology. You'd ask on the GUI-Talk, NFBCS or NABS-L lists
which are, the Graphical User Interface, NFB in Computer Science and NFB
student lists, respectively, and get an answer with greater expertise than
you'd get here.

 

Mike Freeman

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wolfe
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:54 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Professions on list?

 

Julie,

 

 

 

    Thank you so very much for the most thought provoking e-mail that

I've recieved in quite sometime now! I'm not just saying that either

cause I don't give flattery just compliments as they are warranted.

You gave a comprehensive indepthed analysis that I was looking for.

Not only was I thinking that this strategy was for me but exactly my

experience has shown me as well.

 

 

    I'd like to refine a point or two that you made on

experimentation. Realizing that your blind that your expectations

shouldn't be that everything will work at any given point of time.

I've failed in many things that I've tried even selling a house as a

rent-to-own property cause of having the house stripped. However, I

learned that somethings are easier than others without sight and

geography plays a huge role in this endeavor as well. Relying on

others to accomplish tasks doesn't work as well, so always having a

backup plan like your doing is the way about success. Out of everyone

on list to date that I admire you the most. By the way, I'm interested

in how you get statistical software to work using a screen reader like

Jaws or Window-Eyes cause I see this  as something that I need for my

profession. Some people on the Social Sciences e-mail list think that

I need to start working, then consult with them to know better what to

do that just simply the way that I operate though.

 

 

    Lastly, I cannot express my level of gratitude to your post

enough! It was a fabulous beautiful and amazing work of art that

illustrates strength and something that all blind people should strive

for against adversity. I've thought about making my own business with

extra money like how about an online service for blind people like an

how-to video/audio set that teaches cooking, cleaning, etc? Honestly

this would save lots of people time and money instead of these

rehabilitative programs that many don't want to do instead of

retirement, schooling or whatever. Maybe this something you or someone

else can create for blind people cause I'd pay for a program like

that.

 

 

sincerely,

Peter

 

On 3/24/13, Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:

> Peter,

> 

> I'm not Cheryl, but I also became blind as an adult.  Perhaps you, or

> someone else on list, will find something helpful in my story.

> 

> From a young age, I wanted to work with animals.  I started training dogs
in

> 

> high school.  I was good at it and enjoyed it a lot.  I decided to go to

> college to become a veterinary technician, a sort of veterinary nurse.  At

> this time in my life my vision was about 20/100 after correction.  I was

> never taught a single alternative skill.  I didn't even know about CCTV's
or

> 

> large print.  This was before computers were mainstream.

> 

> I didn't do so well in college.  Partly that was because I lost a major

> portion of my vision during this time in my life and had zero alternative

> skills.  But to be perfectly honest it was also because I wasn't ready for

> college or at least not the classroom part!  I was 17 when I started

> college.   I had lived a fairly sheltered life.  My parents didn't go out
of

> 

> their way to limit the things I did because of my visual impairment.

> However I lived in a place where it wasn't safe to go out at night alone.
I

> 

> also feared doing many things because I didn't know how.  I could have
taken

> 

> the bus to go shopping or to a movie, but I didn't because I was afraid.
I

> 

> isolated myself.

> 

> I gave up on veterinary technology.  Sometimes I regret this, but mostly I

> am grateful for the opportunities and experiences I have had.  If I had
not

> 

> lost most of the rest of my vision and made the choices I have, I would
not

> 

> be where I am now.  I love my life.  If I could go back and change
anything,

> 

> I don't think I would.  I needed to make the bad decisions I did so I
could

> 

> learn and grow.

> 

> I'll fast forward a few years.  I met a lot of people in college, made
many

> 

> friends, one of them being my first husband.  I had figured out that there

> were services for blind people, by accident.  I was starting to see

> possibilities.

> 

> We moved around a lot, eventually settling in one place long enough for me

> to finish my associates degree in sociology.   Still no mainstream

> computers, but I had a borrowed CCTV and was using large print, readers,

> talking books and RFB&D for textbooks.   My rehab counselor was my gateway

> to all things blindness related.  I didn't know a single blind person.

> 

> Then I became pregnant and my perspective on the skills I would need
changed

> 

> dramatically.  Now it was no longer about getting by or making do.  I
needed

> 

> to get myself together because now I was responsible for someone else.  I

> learned Braille and cane travel right away.  My rehab counselor and
teacher

> 

> brought me the basic tools like a slate and stylus, Braille paper and a

> cane.  they gave me brief lessons in how to use these tools.  But when
they

> 

> left I practiced like a mad woman.  I was only given the first ten letters

> of the alphabet in my first lesson, but by the time my teacher came back I

> had filled up every sheet of paper she had left with every word I could

> think of with those ten letters.  I took my cane when I went places.  I

> wasn't very good with it, but I was learning.

> 

> I attended a few workshops the state agency for the blind put on.  these

> weren't skill based, but more like college and employment workshops.  I
met

> 

> other blind people.  I soaked up everything like a sponge.  I eavesdropped

> on other people's conversations, hoping to pick up tidbits that could help

> me.  My world view of what I could do was changing rapidly.  Before I met

> other blind people and started learning alternative skills, I thought I

> would work in jobs like housekeeper or dishwasher.  After I met blind
people

> 

> who were lawyers, genetic counselors, diesel mechanics, agency directors
and

> 

> mothers I had hope for myself.

> 

> I finished my last two years of college, graduating with a B.S. degree in

> sociology.  I had no job prospects.  My husband wanted to finish his
degree

> 

> in the same town where the state residential training center for the blind

> was located.  So he went to college and I went to get my blindness
training.

> 

> I am so grateful to the progressive attitude of the Nebraska center for
the

> 

> blind.  they understood that my situation was unique and respected my

> choices.  I lived in an apartment with my husband and Kiddo, while I went

> through center training, instead of their typical apartments for the

> students.

> 

> The program is typically 6 to 9 months. I wasn't willing to give up that

> much time out of my life if I could at all help it.  From the first day I

> was at the center I told the staff that I intended to finish in three

> months.  I asked what I needed to do to make that happen.  No delaying, no

> messing, no taking it easy, I asked them to lay it all out, give me

> homework...whatever it took, I meant to be done in three months.  I read

> Braille on my lunch breaks, I practiced cane travel on weekends and
evenings

> 

> on my own.  I pushed myself hard.  I finished in three and a half months.

> 

> As a result of my center training, I met people who helped me with

> connecting to a temporary job with the Department of Labor.  I started

> working as a Statistical Clerk directly after center training.  It was a

> good job.  It had many of the things I love, surveys, statistics,

> understanding groups of people and a nice paycheck.  However it also
showed

> 

> me that I needed some things I hadn't previously realized.  I needed to
work

> 

> more directly with people.  I was stuck in a cubical all day and I hated

> it.

> 

> In the next years I worked at the same training center I had attended as a

> student.  I went back to school, working toward a Masters degree in mental

> health counseling, but gave it up because I became too emotionally
invested,

> 

> causing myself way too much stress.  I got divorced and became a single
Mom.

> 

> I moved into the first place where I was truly on my own, no husband or

> roommates.

> 

> Fast forward a bit more, I moved into a very small town, got remarried,

> started my own business, sold the business and now work for county

> government.  I honestly have had very little idea how I was going to
manage

> 

> all the details of each of these life events before I jumped in.  I had

> basic skills I felt I could apply.  I had good connections with other
blind

> 

> people, who could connect me with yet other blind people who had the
skills

> 

> and techniques and were doing what I wanted to do.  The most valuable
skills

> 

> a blind person can possess are a willingness to explore, the ability to

> problem solve and the ability to advocate for oneself.  Some good basic

> training in alternative skills and a network of people who will support
you

> 

> are also important.

> 

> To answer your specific questions...

> *How did you know the right skills or technologies

> to master in order to know which fields to go into being blind? *

> 

> My answer, I didn't.

> I learned basic skills, like Braille, cane travel, JAWS and household

> skills.  I practiced applying those basic skills in every situation I
could.

> 

> I could use my cane to get to the grocery, the bank or the playground at
the

> 

> park.  The same basic techniques of two point touch, using landmarks,

> listening to the environment etc., but each situation was a bit different.

> I learned to problem solve on the fly.

> 

> *How did you overcome or continue to

> overcome against the odds with the changing nature of technology, the

> economy and other adverse situations? *

> 

> My answer.  I'll try to give some examples that hopefully will help

> illustrate how I have managed.

> My current job as the Diversion Coordinator is grant funded.  this means
it

> 

> is unattractive to many people because funding is not guaranteed from one

> year to the next.  I wanted a job and was willing to deal with this

> uncertainty.  Although funding isn't certain, I do feel like I have a
decent

> 

> amount of job security.  After all crime isn't going away anytime soon.

> Each year I fill out the paperwork to get the grant money.  I attend the

> training workshops on grant writing so I can get better.  I have applied
for

> 

> and gotten other grants to supplement or increase programs.  I started an

> adult diversion program that is fee based.  Last year our grant was cut.
I

> 

> lost about one quarter of my salary in that budget cut.  However because I

> had started the fee based program my salary was able to stay the same.

> 

> There are a lot of bills being introduced in the legislature this year
that

> 

> could potentially dramatically change diversion programming and juvenile

> justice in Nebraska.  I have absolutely no idea if I will have a job next

> year, how different it will be or where funding will be coming from.  It

> causes me some stress, but I feel like I do a good job and am respected at

> work.  I am hopeful that between my own ingenuity and the support of my

> supervisor we will be able to figure it out.

> 

> In case I am wrong I have also started a web based business.  It will take
a

> 

> good year for it to be fully functional and making money.  If all goes
well

> 

> it will be some supplemental income, if all goes badly, it will be
something

> 

> to fall back on.  I believe in diversifying one's financial portfolio.  I

> have also written a book and will be putting that on the market shortly.

> another way to earn a bit and to keep all the eggs out of that one basket.

> 

> As far as technology...mostly I figure it out as I go.  Since I've started

> my job the Crime Commission created an online way to document cases and to

> our statistical reporting.  It had issues, so I contacted the folks in

> charge and pressed hard for them to fix it so it would be accessible.
There

> 

> are laws about making stuff accessible for blind people.  It has taken
four

> 

> years, but finally everything is working as it should.

> 

> I just bought an iPad late last summer.  I have never had any training on

> how to use it.  I know from other blind people that it would be accessible

> out of the box.  The first few days were frustrating because it is so

> different from anything I am used to, but I got the hang of it.  I have

> learned how to use it by trial and error.  When I get stuck I ask the nice

> folks on this list or some of the other blind people I know who use I

> devices.  I now use the iPad daily for my wake up alarm, calendar, email,

> internet, games, dictionary, and other life details.

> 

> I guess this huge novel I've written sums up to: I start by figuring out

> what I want to do, then I figure out how to do it.  I figure if I do

> nothing, I will be exactly where I am now in a year.  If I try something,
I

> 

> have the chance to better myself.  I might not make the right decision or
do

> 

> the right thing, but I will be guaranteed to learn something, even if what
I

> 

> learn is what doesn't work.

> All my best,

> Julie

> 

> 

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Cordially,

Peter Q Wolfe, BA

cum laude Auburn University

e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com

"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"

Peter Q Wolfe

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