[Blindtlk] Professions on list?
Peter Wolfe
yogabare13 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 06:46:44 UTC 2013
Steve,
Thanks for this story cause it helped shed some light on anotther
prospective of rehabilitation for others like me. I still have lots of
questions on your decision process of being employed and choosing your
major post-blindness within your field. You had to think rationally
that you can't do what you formerly did, so picked the next best thing
with blindness. So, I wonder what all did you put into consideration
in that transition and what helped you prepare for jobs?
What stops lots of blind people including me is the word "Database
in any requirements that we think that we cannot do as well as others.
I also want to prepare for the requirements not said in the posting,
so continue seeking employment and all even with private companies
like h insurance companies and the alike. I am going for training for
Jaws but haven't recieved my software. I guess the narrative is the
scary part is being on my own like I once was with my sight. If I fail
then there is no social support net like others on here like me. My
family is out of the picture in any financial or social commitment
towards me so that makes my decisions weigh that much for it. Hard to
explain the challenges cause its hard to find a job with my degree of
poli sci.
Lastly, if any of you have any ideas just feel free to share them
with me. I realize poli sci isn't a turminal degree so thought about
human resources, financial aid advisor,, Veterns Administration,
Social Security representative or something else. I have also lost the
ability of normal application process of normal sighted people in this
tribulation too. I don't know how even normal people unskilled like me
can meet the requirements of the job. Maybe perhaps none of this makes
any sense to you guys just feel so insecure with the future. I've
already had three jobs not lead to a career and hard not to feel
discouraged by this point.
Thanks,
Peter
On 3/24/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Go get them. Steeve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven
> Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:22 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Professions on list?
>
> Peter, I have been reading these threads for quite some time now, and
> decided to finally chime in.
>
> I too lost my sight later in life, well, sort of but at the age of 22. Up
> until that point, my career goals were already starting to fall in place as
> I had graduated from a program where I was already working as a registered
> x-ray technologist (radiologic technologist), but then decided to pursue
> another field within diagnostic medicine, diagnostic medical Sonography
> (ultrasound). It was during this time, actually at the end of the first of
> 2 internships that I became gravely ill, and ended up withdrawing from the
> program only to lose my sight within 4 months after that. After receiving
> a
> very successful kidney/pancreas transplant, I finally got back on my feet
> only to get my first dog guide, enroll at a State University and pursue a
> BS in Community Health Education, and eventually my Master's. With my
> skills and background in the medical field, it would be a sheer waste to
> not
> take those skills and use them in another fashion. I ended up reentering
> the job market a couple of years later, and was now working in the Human
> Service Field which I see as a subset of the broader medical umbrella, and
> worked for our regional Independent Living Center as an Independent Living
> Specialist. I was fortunate to coordinate many programs and projects while
> employed with this agency, and even ended up working in the employment
> field
> for 6 years under a Federal Grant program called the Disability Navigator
> Program working through our State's Job Center System. After this grant
> ended, I knew it was time to move on, and began working for county
> government, as a Social Service specialist and more specifically, with the
> ADRC (Aging and Disability Resource Center) which works with adults with
> physical and developmental disabilities as well as frail elders in making
> sure that they remained in the community and received the programs and
> services they needed in order to remain in their homes and not nursing
> facilities. Since that time almost 4 years ago, I have taken on a new
> challenge within county government as of this past September, and now work
> in the Child Protective Service section doing CPS intake as well as intake
> and I&A for persons who have AODA backgrounds as well as mental health
> issues. I am also a self-taught JAWS user, and am very proficient in using
> this program as we are accessing many databases and tools for ever report
> we
> take as we are essentially starting the investigation process in finding
> more about the alleged maltreaters so the workers can have more insight as
> to what these individuals' backgrounds have been like. In a nutshell, this
> has all been done in the past 22 years since my transplants, and I have
> accomplished more in this time as a person who is totally blind than in all
> of the years previously as a sighted person. Like so many, I have gone
> from
> the benefit roles to the payroles, have purchased a home, continue to do
> all of those things I had when I was sighted including continuing to be an
> avid outdoorsman, e.g. hunter/fisher. I attended no training program for
> the blind, and have done everything I have because of my attitude. I used
> the skills I learned as a sighted person, and simply, transferred them to
> that of being blind. My reputation and integrity has always been something
> I will not compromise, and continue to be involved in multiple volunteer
> organizations outside of my 40 hour week, but choose those things that are
> passionate to me, and those things that I know that there needs to be
> representation from the larger disability community. At one point, I was
> involved in approximately 26 additional commitments outside of work, but
> have since cut that down to those things truly important to me, and those
> things that I know are not a waste of my time, and more importantly,
> others'
> time. Note: I am pretty sure that my passion for being involved with so
> many things may have been a slight barrier to achieving one of my other
> life
> goals, and that is to settle down and get married:) But I assure you that
> this one I still continue to work on. (grin)
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:25 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Professions on list?
>
> Peter,
>
> I'm not Cheryl, but I also became blind as an adult. Perhaps you, or
> someone else on list, will find something helpful in my story.
>
> From a young age, I wanted to work with animals. I started training dogs
> in
> high school. I was good at it and enjoyed it a lot. I decided to go to
> college to become a veterinary technician, a sort of veterinary nurse. At
> this time in my life my vision was about 20/100 after correction. I was
> never taught a single alternative skill. I didn't even know about CCTV's
> or
> large print. This was before computers were mainstream.
>
> I didn't do so well in college. Partly that was because I lost a major
> portion of my vision during this time in my life and had zero alternative
> skills. But to be perfectly honest it was also because I wasn't ready for
> college or at least not the classroom part! I was 17 when I started
> college. I had lived a fairly sheltered life. My parents didn't go out
> of
>
> their way to limit the things I did because of my visual impairment.
> However I lived in a place where it wasn't safe to go out at night alone.
> I
> also feared doing many things because I didn't know how. I could have
> taken
> the bus to go shopping or to a movie, but I didn't because I was afraid. I
> isolated myself.
>
> I gave up on veterinary technology. Sometimes I regret this, but mostly I
> am grateful for the opportunities and experiences I have had. If I had not
> lost most of the rest of my vision and made the choices I have, I would not
> be where I am now. I love my life. If I could go back and change
> anything,
> I don't think I would. I needed to make the bad decisions I did so I could
> learn and grow.
>
> I'll fast forward a few years. I met a lot of people in college, made many
> friends, one of them being my first husband. I had figured out that there
> were services for blind people, by accident. I was starting to see
> possibilities.
>
> We moved around a lot, eventually settling in one place long enough for me
> to finish my associates degree in sociology. Still no mainstream
> computers, but I had a borrowed CCTV and was using large print, readers,
> talking books and RFB&D for textbooks. My rehab counselor was my gateway
> to all things blindness related. I didn't know a single blind person.
>
> Then I became pregnant and my perspective on the skills I would need
> changed
> dramatically. Now it was no longer about getting by or making do. I
> needed
> to get myself together because now I was responsible for someone else. I
> learned Braille and cane travel right away. My rehab counselor and teacher
> brought me the basic tools like a slate and stylus, Braille paper and a
> cane. they gave me brief lessons in how to use these tools. But when they
> left I practiced like a mad woman. I was only given the first ten letters
> of the alphabet in my first lesson, but by the time my teacher came back I
> had filled up every sheet of paper she had left with every word I could
> think of with those ten letters. I took my cane when I went places. I
> wasn't very good with it, but I was learning.
>
> I attended a few workshops the state agency for the blind put on. these
> weren't skill based, but more like college and employment workshops. I met
> other blind people. I soaked up everything like a sponge. I eavesdropped
> on other people's conversations, hoping to pick up tidbits that could help
> me. My world view of what I could do was changing rapidly. Before I met
> other blind people and started learning alternative skills, I thought I
> would work in jobs like housekeeper or dishwasher. After I met blind
> people
> who were lawyers, genetic counselors, diesel mechanics, agency directors
> and
> mothers I had hope for myself.
>
> I finished my last two years of college, graduating with a B.S. degree in
> sociology. I had no job prospects. My husband wanted to finish his degree
> in the same town where the state residential training center for the blind
> was located. So he went to college and I went to get my blindness
> training.
>
> I am so grateful to the progressive attitude of the Nebraska center for the
> blind. they understood that my situation was unique and respected my
> choices. I lived in an apartment with my husband and Kiddo, while I went
> through center training, instead of their typical apartments for the
> students.
>
> The program is typically 6 to 9 months. I wasn't willing to give up that
> much time out of my life if I could at all help it. From the first day I
> was at the center I told the staff that I intended to finish in three
> months. I asked what I needed to do to make that happen. No delaying, no
> messing, no taking it easy, I asked them to lay it all out, give me
> homework...whatever it took, I meant to be done in three months. I read
> Braille on my lunch breaks, I practiced cane travel on weekends and
> evenings
> on my own. I pushed myself hard. I finished in three and a half months.
>
> As a result of my center training, I met people who helped me with
> connecting to a temporary job with the Department of Labor. I started
> working as a Statistical Clerk directly after center training. It was a
> good job. It had many of the things I love, surveys, statistics,
> understanding groups of people and a nice paycheck. However it also showed
> me that I needed some things I hadn't previously realized. I needed to
> work
> more directly with people. I was stuck in a cubical all day and I hated
> it.
>
> In the next years I worked at the same training center I had attended as a
> student. I went back to school, working toward a Masters degree in mental
> health counseling, but gave it up because I became too emotionally
> invested,
> causing myself way too much stress. I got divorced and became a single
> Mom.
>
> I moved into the first place where I was truly on my own, no husband or
> roommates.
>
> Fast forward a bit more, I moved into a very small town, got remarried,
> started my own business, sold the business and now work for county
> government. I honestly have had very little idea how I was going to manage
> all the details of each of these life events before I jumped in. I had
> basic skills I felt I could apply. I had good connections with other blind
> people, who could connect me with yet other blind people who had the skills
> and techniques and were doing what I wanted to do. The most valuable
> skills
> a blind person can possess are a willingness to explore, the ability to
> problem solve and the ability to advocate for oneself. Some good basic
> training in alternative skills and a network of people who will support you
> are also important.
>
> To answer your specific questions...
> *How did you know the right skills or technologies to master in order to
> know which fields to go into being blind? *
>
> My answer, I didn't.
> I learned basic skills, like Braille, cane travel, JAWS and household
> skills. I practiced applying those basic skills in every situation I
> could.
>
> I could use my cane to get to the grocery, the bank or the playground at
> the
> park. The same basic techniques of two point touch, using landmarks,
> listening to the environment etc., but each situation was a bit different.
> I learned to problem solve on the fly.
>
> *How did you overcome or continue to
> overcome against the odds with the changing nature of technology, the
> economy and other adverse situations? *
>
> My answer. I'll try to give some examples that hopefully will help
> illustrate how I have managed.
> My current job as the Diversion Coordinator is grant funded. this means it
> is unattractive to many people because funding is not guaranteed from one
> year to the next. I wanted a job and was willing to deal with this
> uncertainty. Although funding isn't certain, I do feel like I have a
> decent
> amount of job security. After all crime isn't going away anytime soon.
> Each year I fill out the paperwork to get the grant money. I attend the
> training workshops on grant writing so I can get better. I have applied
> for
> and gotten other grants to supplement or increase programs. I started an
> adult diversion program that is fee based. Last year our grant was cut. I
> lost about one quarter of my salary in that budget cut. However because I
> had started the fee based program my salary was able to stay the same.
>
> There are a lot of bills being introduced in the legislature this year that
> could potentially dramatically change diversion programming and juvenile
> justice in Nebraska. I have absolutely no idea if I will have a job next
> year, how different it will be or where funding will be coming from. It
> causes me some stress, but I feel like I do a good job and am respected at
> work. I am hopeful that between my own ingenuity and the support of my
> supervisor we will be able to figure it out.
>
> In case I am wrong I have also started a web based business. It will take
> a
> good year for it to be fully functional and making money. If all goes well
> it will be some supplemental income, if all goes badly, it will be
> something
> to fall back on. I believe in diversifying one's financial portfolio. I
> have also written a book and will be putting that on the market shortly.
> another way to earn a bit and to keep all the eggs out of that one basket.
>
> As far as technology...mostly I figure it out as I go. Since I've started
> my job the Crime Commission created an online way to document cases and to
> our statistical reporting. It had issues, so I contacted the folks in
> charge and pressed hard for them to fix it so it would be accessible.
> There
> are laws about making stuff accessible for blind people. It has taken four
> years, but finally everything is working as it should.
>
> I just bought an iPad late last summer. I have never had any training on
> how to use it. I know from other blind people that it would be accessible
> out of the box. The first few days were frustrating because it is so
> different from anything I am used to, but I got the hang of it. I have
> learned how to use it by trial and error. When I get stuck I ask the nice
> folks on this list or some of the other blind people I know who use I
> devices. I now use the iPad daily for my wake up alarm, calendar, email,
> internet, games, dictionary, and other life details.
>
> I guess this huge novel I've written sums up to: I start by figuring out
> what I want to do, then I figure out how to do it. I figure if I do
> nothing, I will be exactly where I am now in a year. If I try something, I
> have the chance to better myself. I might not make the right decision or
> do
> the right thing, but I will be guaranteed to learn something, even if what
> I
> learn is what doesn't work.
> All my best,
> Julie
>
>
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Cordially,
Peter Q Wolfe, BA
cum laude Auburn University
e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
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