[Blindtlk] My 2 Cents

Sat Mar 30 05:55:24 UTC 2013

    Oh, great just goes to prove whatt I thought alkl along with NFB
or their real alias intolerant bigotted people with the same mindset.
If you told a NFB person that they can't currently go into certain
professions cause its extrely dangerous like astranaut that they
wouldn't believe you. Its almost akin to being a child pretending to
be innocent just rebelling like a teenager not an adult. I tire in
your wrong analysis of me being a a freakin victim that isn't what I'm
saying and you all know it.


bye,
Peter

On 3/29/13, Gloria Whipple <glowhi at centurylink.net> wrote:
> Amen!
>
> Gloria Whipple
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 18:49
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>
> I suggest that it's time to move on and leave Peter to ponder profound
> philosophical questions such as what is the sound of one hand clapping!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret
> Jr
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 6:05 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>
> You know Peter, I'm going to pile on here by agreeing both with Bonnie and
> Dian.  We all seem to be saying pretty much the same thing.  You have, to
> put it frankly, a victim complex.  Just because some of us might perhaps
> disagree with you, you say we're attacking you.  You say this is tipicle of
> NFB  members.  You say that blindness makes life very hard.  Frankly, in
> your case, I do not think it's blindness:  rather, it's purpetial
> victimhood.  You seem always to be looking to be the victim of somebody
> somewhere.  We try to help.  We try to understand.  You take our efforts
> for
> more making you a victim.  IF you think the entire world is out to make you
> a victim, you will be a victim:  but, in such a case, you are a victim by
> your own choice-not our's.  We're not the ones making a victim out of
> you-you are.
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Mar 29, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Diane Graves <princess.di2007 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> For whatever it may be worth, I don't believe anyone here has ever said
> that
>> "no one agreed with you." There may very well be people who do agree with
>> your statements/observations. But the fact that I may not always agree,
> does
>> not mean that I am bullying or attacking you. It doesn't mean that your
>> feelings aren't valid based on your own experiences. It simply means that
> we
>> have different views.
>>
>> And... as for my "cookie cutter" observation, I will attempt to explain
>> that.
>>
>> Several times you have emphatically stated that blindness does make life
>> harder, and keeps us from truly being equal to the sighted. There are
> those
>> of us who don't believe that to be true.  Everytime someone disputes your
>> observation, you tell them that they are wrong or accuse them of
>> attacking
>> you. You tell them that they are not living in reality. You then go on to
>> say that this is typical of the NFB members.
>>
>> So, you are forcing us into one mold, and if we don't fit your mold and
>> stand up and say that, then we are attacking you. I have to say that your
>> offensive attitude has me feeling a bit attacked.
>>
>> This is all I intend to say on the subject. Think what you think, and do
>> what you do.
>>
>> Diane Graves
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Wolfe
>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 6:05 PM
>> To: gwunder at earthlink.net; Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>>
>>
>>    I've been bullied on the unfounded allogations that nobody agrees with
>> me on my positions. I've also been bullied on self-sufficiency even if
>> not
>> openly just implied by their comments. I'm a very sensitive person so
>> perhaps in this regard that I'm percieving the intent in the wrong light.
>> However, I just don't communicate with others or interact with them the
> same
>> as the masses either.
>> Compounding this that I think so differently because of being a minority
> of
>> being part of the LGBTQ umbrella that I just can't relate with the social
>> nuisances too. Sorry just this is the way that I am not the cookie
>> cutting
>> participant on this or other issues.
>>
>>
>> sincerely,
>> Peter
>>
>> On 3/28/13, Gary Wunder <gwunder at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi, Peter. Perhaps I have missed an important part of this thread, but
>>> where have you been bullied on?  I believe you would agree that Frank
>>> discussion is not the same as bullying.  Neither is difference of
>>> opinion.  The word bully has taken on much more significance today
>>> than it once had.  When one makes the charge today, it is a serious
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
>>> Wolfe
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:30 PM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>>>
>>> Diane,
>>>
>>>
>>>    I merely stated rational deductive logic to a inductive opinion
>>> that is it. I don't see anything offensive especially in lue that she
>>> assumed that nobody agreed with me. Its impossible to know whether
>>> that is the case or not that would be the generalization fallacy. I'm
>>> being bullied on cause I'm the only one with his own mind on the
>>> subject. If nobody would disagree on another issue, then nobody will
>>> learn anything at all of the other side. I won't be silenced by the
>>> mob mentality that prevades this country not me.
>>>
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 3/27/13, Diane Graves <princess.di2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Let me first say that I apologize if my message the other night
>>>> offended you in any way. That was certainly not my intention. I was
>>>> simply expressing my confusion, my opinion. You are not the only one
>>>> with the right to do that, neither are you the only one with the
>>>> right to respect.
>>>>
>>>> I hear a lot of talk about others attacking you, but I see you freely
>>>> disparaging others who happen to disagree with you.
>>>>
>>>> I think it might do you well to look at the "logics class" of which
>>>> you speak. I don't feel that that insult to Bonnie was warranted at
>>>> all. If you don't want criticism, then give others the same respect
>>> please.
>>>>
>>>> Diane Graves
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Peter Wolfe
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:41 PM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>>>>
>>>> Bonnie,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Have you ever taken a logics claass? Apparently you haven't cause
>>>> in Aristotlian syllagism that you commited several fallacies in your
>>>> argument towards me that isn't true. The argument goes: all NFB Talk
>>>> people are diverse. Someone disagrees, therefore, no one disagrees
>>>> with someone cause of being different. I'd strongly recommend you
>>>> read a logics or computer programming book cause your statements are
>>>> illogical to the extreme. Some people agree with me not openly but
>>>> some
>>> people agree with me in reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> see ya,
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On 3/27/13, Bonnie Ainsworth <bainsworth65 at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> All Diane was doing (at least as I saw it) is pointing out how
>>>>> diversity we
>>>>>
>>>>> have in in NFB.  We're all different, and some of us all have
>>>>> different skills, views, and the like.  I didn't interpret that she
>>>>> was attacking you
>>>>>
>>>>> in any way.  If you do, than it's your own perception, and not that
>>>>> of anyone else.  Now I'll crawl back under my rock.  Enough said.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Peter Wolfe" <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] My 2 Cents
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Diane,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Thanks for pointing me out to your possy on the NFB-Talk list
>>>>> that is quite becoming of NFB insulated double-speak. I rise to the
>>>>> defense to acknowledge the positive statements that I've already
>>>>> mentioned in prior posts that are commendable and worthy of mention.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
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>> Cordially,
>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> cum laude Auburn University
>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
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-- 
Cordially,
Peter Q Wolfe, BA
cum laude Auburn University
e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
Peter Q Wolfe
"Stand up for your rights"
Bob Marley