[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurtorinsult anyone

Sat Mar 30 23:46:28 UTC 2013

Mark, I echo what you and Cheryl said. I am sure that the members of this 
list only have the best of intentions. We should all try to consider what 
the other guy is going through when replying to e-mails. Happy Easter and 
Passover to all.

Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Tardif" <markspark at roadrunner.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to 
hurtorinsult anyone

Cheryl,

That is so heart-felt and true.  And I think we need to remember that we
don't know the issues someone else is dealing with, and that when we do dust
ourselves off, there needs to be room for empathy and a recognition that in
fact it may very well be harder for us as blind people, not because of the
blindness, but because of perceptions out there, and the NFB is there to
help as a recognition of that fact.  Along those lines, I would like to wish
everyone happy Easter and Passover and let's look forward to spring.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:14 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt
orinsult anyone

Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this division and
this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2 weeks are
some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover and easter, which
just means we should be kind to each other not just this week but all the
time.
We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and think either
good or bad thoughts.
We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always trying to
post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on insulting anyone
that doesn't know me personally.
When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on the
phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the phone being
rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2 different things.
So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want it to
come out.
I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep here in
NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first came and I was
one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has heard
New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are totally the
opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl Jacobsen says we
will even through in the shoes and socks if you need them as well.
Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are direct
people and get to the point.
So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person personally,
then we should take what we write as help and not trying to insult or put
people down.
I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I have a
heart and it can be broken.
Please be kind to one another.
God bless and enjoy each other.
Cheryl

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> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>
> Peter,
>
> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free to
> come
> and go as you please.
>
> Gloria Whipple
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Wolfe
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>
> Ray,
>
>
>
>     Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet your
> more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me anyways
> cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no rational person
> would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun and can't be
> myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive like Stalin.
>
>
> bye and blocking you now Ray
>
> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> > This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just my
> > opinion.
> >
> > I think you're about done.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> > blind
> > built-in!
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Constance,
> >>
> >>
> >>    What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them? I
> >> own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk to them
> >> is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy the big stuff
> >> doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny and Chip the
> >> chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting with my dolls almost
> >> on a daily basis as well and don't care what you all think either for
> >> it! Where all have you traveled to with your husband and without him?
> >> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country like The
> >> Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port Canaveral which is
> >> no where near Orlando, Florida like they said it was.
> >>
> >>
> >>    What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys something
> >> that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay marriage
> >> myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm advocating
> >> for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't understand why
> >> people are against equal rights especially as one minority has aided
> >> the other minority with it in kin. Some of the nices people are gays
> >> that is from personal experience just seems wrong. I guess this is an
> >> annoying thing as it relates to political machine today that nobody
> >> can agree even on basic dignity anymore.
> >>
> >>
> >>    By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm curious
> >> cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like baseball,
> >> nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to be a forward
> >> point guart as a sighted person and can't stand spectator sports
> >> anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some soccer or vollyball or
> >> something. Do you know what sport that I'm interested in now? I don't
> >> know whether that I could do it or not but ballet? I am really into
> >> yoga right now not sure whether that is a sport but doubt it. Anyways,
> >> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping the
> >> other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting area.
> >>
> >>
> >> see ya,
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in liberal
> >>> political
> >>> issues.  I also enjoy reading, television, movies and music and of
> >>> course
> >>> technology and try to learn something new all the time  I love
> >>> shopping
> >>> and
> >>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
> >>> husband
> >>> and
> >>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off work.  I
> >>> am
> >>> a
> >>> sports fanatic.
> >>>
> >>> Constance Canode
> >>> Sent from my I-phone
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear NFB members,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm asking
> >>>> cause I find myself with nothing to do till my counseling becomes
> >>>> more
> >>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I like
> >>>> history, political science, news, traveling, trying new cuisines,
> >>>> agriculture, programming websites, talking, researching, reading, and
> >>>> learning are just a few things that I enjoy. Believe it or not that
> >>>> I've been traveling on train, boat, car, airplane and bus throughout
> >>>> this country! Yes, I've even been on a cruise line with almost being
> >>>> thrown off the cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that
> >>>> was as I was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
> >>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on that
> >>>> one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile spirited way or
> >>>> else just don't reply.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cordially,
> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> >>>> anything"
> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>>> Bob Marley
> >>>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Cordially,
> >> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >> cum laude Auburn University
> >> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> >> Peter Q Wolfe
> >> "Stand up for your rights"
> >> Bob Marley
> >>
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> -- 
> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> Peter Q Wolfe
> "Stand up for your rights"
> Bob Marley
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