[Blindtlk] Buffet Lines

Sun Mar 31 19:42:55 UTC 2013

Awe man, I was hoping it would be a little later.  Thought about visiting,
but that is during school.  Maybe I can catch you on line.  You guys sound
interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 2:48 PM
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Justin,

The seminar will be on April 27 in Chevy Chase, MD. Please see my earlier
post announcing the seminar and the flyer attached to it for all the
information.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
williams
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 2:08 PM
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Whne is your seminar?

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
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I love that speech! Maybe we should use it at our seminar...

Chris

Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Portillo
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:42 PM
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I use it a lot when I lead the seminar discussions at our center.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, David
W. (ESC)
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:32 AM
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"the Nature of Independence is one of those signature speeches that Dr.
Jernigan made. It was not, by the way, a banquet speech, but it could have
been. We used it a lot when I worked at the Colorado Center, and it is one
of those outstanding presentations he made.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
echevarria
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:41 AM
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Being independent is also knowing when to ask for help on your own terms and
not someone elses.
Dr. Jernigan's book goes into that as well.
He even did a Banquet Speech, again before I became an NFB member maybe some
of you old timers LOL. Who knew Dr. Jernigan would know this one where he
got letters from some blind students asking him why he goes sighted guide
and doesn't use his cane.
He of course did a few jokes about it, but when he got down to it he told
the young person who wrote him, sometimes he has to go sighted guide to get
there faster than using his cane, or he might be late for a meeting or
something.
He said it is no shame in asking for help, we all need it sometimes, even
those that are sighted.
It is funny when I used to be able to drive before the gps where in place,
that if i got lost I asked for help.
Or if I couldn't find something the store I asked for help.
It's just knowing when to ask for something, then people assuming you need
the help.

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> From: julielj at neb.rr.com
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:27:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Justin,
> 
> If it is at all possible I find an employee or someone I'm with to 
> tell me what's what on the buffet.  I'll wing it alone, if I can't 
> find anyone, but I don't like doing that.
> 
> I did receive blindness training at the Nebraska Commission for the Blind.

> I learned a lot of stuff there, but I also learned how to learn.  I 
> mean I learned how to ask for the information I need, how to advocate 
> for myself, how to problem solve and how to have dignity left when 
> what I tried flopped miserably!  *smile*  I had most of those skills 
> to one degree or another before training, but daily intense practice 
> sharpened, refined and enhanced them in rapid fashion.
> 
> I learn by trial and error and necessity.  I have failed at many 
> things I've tried.  Some I tried again and had better luck.  Others I 
> decided weren't for me.  There are still things I can't do, but would 
> like
to master.
> 
> I read Braille at a miserable 30 words per minute.  I cannot cook 
> fried chicken to save my life.  I am freaked out by airports.  I have 
> worn mismatched socks! *smile*  I still use and practice Braille.  I 
> still try cooking fried chicken every now and then.  I still travel 
> through airports, even though I don't like it.  I have learned better 
> methods of matching socks, so I think that is pretty much solved.
> 
> You have to just keep putting yourself out there.  It's a process and 
> nobody is perfect, sighted or blind.  We are all learning.
> 
> all my best to you,
> Julie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: justin williams
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Sometimes, I see you guys on here and feel like I missed out on some 
> valuable  skill training somewhere.  I'm not under these illusions 
> that I'm the best because there aren't very many blind people with my 
> skillset n columbia.  If you listen to the sighted, as they heap 
> praise that you don't really deserve  upon you you may think that.  I 
> hope you folks have learned as much from me as I have you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> Kelby,
> 
> I've found that if I have a choice I prefer to go through a buffet on 
> the side that puts my guide dog furthest from the buffet.  I'm not 
> worried about
> 
> him being inappropriate, sniffing or snatching food, but if he is in 
> between
> 
> me and the food, it means that I have to reach over and it's awkward.   He
> always positions himself parallel to the buffet, so as I'm facing the 
> buffet
> 
> he's at a 90 degree angle to me, standing behind me.  When I'm ready 
> to move
> 
> I turn to line up correctly with the direction of travel, tell him to 
> "step up" which is something I taught him which means that he should 
> proceed only a step or two.
> 
> At buffets with regular plates I have filled and carried them myself.
Put
> small items like napkins, utensils and straws in a pocket if you can, 
> it saves valuable hand real estate!  I make multiple trips to get a 
> drink, soup, dessert etc., rather than trying to make one mega trip.
> 
> The only place I've encountered the tray type of buffet was on a 
> college cafeteria last summer when I was attending a leadership 
> training thing.  I found it best for me to ask for assistance in that 
> situation to carry my tray.  There were lots of little islands, some 
> self service, some with staff
> 
> behind the counter who would take your order.  I think if I were a 
> regular college student I would have figured out what was what and 
> been able to do more myself, but for the three days I was there it 
> worked
out fine.
> 
> Oh, almost all of the time I find a sighted person to let me know what 
> the food choices are, but generally I fill my own plate.  Working my 
> guide dog with food in my other hand hasn't been a problem.  Of course 
> I can't use hand signals so I have to be mindful to be clear with 
> verbal directions.  He
> 
> knows both, but responds a bit better with hand signals.  Still it 
> hasn't been a problem.  As much as is possible I try to keep my plate 
> held in front
> 
> of my body, not off to the side, because the guide dog isn't going to 
> factor
> 
> in the additional width.  Of course a dog can be taught to account for 
> something  additional on your right side, like a large bag or a baby 
> stroller you are pulling, but this requires training and practice.
> 
> Anyhow that's how I manage.  I hope others will share some ideas.  
> Buffets are not one of my favorite things.  Some more ideas would be
great!
> Julie
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelby Carlson
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:26 AM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Buffet Lines
> 
> (This may have already been sent; e-mail is glitching.)
> 
> I wish I could come to Maryland, as I'd love to know how y'all do 
> buffet lines.  (Especially when their are trays and guide dogs
> involved.)
> 
> Kelby S.  Carlson
> 
> Vanderbilt University
> 
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