[Blindtlk] an apology received

[blind411]

Daniel,
	As for the question of whether or not Amazon or any other company is
required to make their websites accessible, I believe it is less a matter of
whether or not they want to do so than what the law requires of them. For
instance, if a brick & mortar store were to design a building with an
entrance only accessible by stairs and a doorway that is only 24" wide, what
would the law, implemented by building code have to say about it? It would
say that they are required to have an equitable alternative entry for those
patrons using a wheelchair. It would not be up to them to decide whether or
not this is done as it is a legal requirement. Sure, those who use
wheelchairs would have the choice to go elsewhere, but why should they if
this entity has what they want at a price they are willing to pay?
	The law has already affirmed that, just as a brick & mortar facility
is required to be accessible, so an electronic facility is required to be
accessible. Just as no respectable licensed architect or building contractor
would consider a building with physical barriers, those who create the
architecture of the internet must also build facilities without barriers.
The law has affirmed this and, as consumers, we need to demand it be done!

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Garcia
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:12 AM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] an apology received

I do find it laughable that some people believe that the Amazons of the
world are so thinned skinned that they will refrain from making their
products accessible in order to avoid what they perceive to be a negative
press release from a "militant "organization. As far as whether Amazon has
to make their products accessible, well, I supposed that if they don't want
our business they don't have to, but if they do, then it's probably a good
idea. 

Daniel


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret
Jr
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:57 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] an apology received

Quite so Mike-Quite so.  

Perhaps a truly nutral tone might have suited better.

But oh well.  What's done is done.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On May 12, 2013, at 5:43 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> Good show.
> 
> You also might want to tell your friend that NFB might have been more 
> positive (though for the life of me, I can't see a reason we should 
> bow down and worship Amazon for doing what they ought to have done
> anyway) if amazon wasn't trying to tout inaccessible software for use 
> in schools or imply that the Kindle app was good enough to do this.
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray 
> Foret Jr
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:56 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: [Blindtlk] an apology received
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You may reacall that, last night, I posted my comments on this list 
> concerning criticism of the NFB.  This morning, I received an apology 
> from one of the participants in that podcast.  I feel it only proper 
> to send along what the person said to me.
> "I want to express my apology for what I said and ought not to have 
> said on the podcast. I read the article, and though I feel, as you 
> said, that their message wasn't in tone what it ought to have been, I 
> myself ought not to have been so quick to judge based on only the 
> negative criticisms of others and not taking the time to see the 
> entire picture. That was poor judgement on my part and I really need 
> to be more careful as to better inform myself instead of feeding on 
> just the negative criticism. Again, my sincere apologies".
> 
> For the record, I accepted.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
> blind built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
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