[Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17
Carly Mihalakis
carlymih at comcast.net
Fri May 17 18:11:54 UTC 2013
Good morning, Gary,
Yes, and by a same tokin, why is it that touching someone's
butt or other parts of their body, is any different from touching
say, their nose, or even their hand? I mean, to some this may sound a
little outlandish, but I know for me, I don't care where someone
wants to touch me. Also, don't people look upon things with their
ocular organs fairly indiscriminately? Yet, if you suggest touching
the same gnarly bit with their hands, often sighted folk are reviled.
Personally, I see no difference. So, what ol' sighty looks upon with
his eyes, I wanna see too, but in a way I know how.
What do others think?
By the way, I am not uptight about talking about either my cause of
blindness or my age, if that's what someone wants to know. The longer
things remain a mystery, the more people will feel uneasy and the
result will be our further alienation. for today, Car
>be offended if someone asks my age? As a man the world would say no. If I
>were a woman, I should be offended by the question and you should be
>apologetic about asking. Why? If I'm asked how tall I am, I answer. If I'm
>asked how much I weigh, I hesitate and wonder why they want to know and then
>decide whether to tell them or fudge on the figure. Why is my weight less a
>subject for question than my height? Perhaps because I feel guilty about one
>and think I had no control over the other?
>
>Gary
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of wogg le4
>Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:23 PM
>To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17
>
>It isn't that I am uncomfortable with the topic.
>
>For me everything depends on context. As noted this person is not a
>friend - is not someone I particularly like and dropped the question
>right out of the blue - and I remain of the veiw that it shows really
>bad manners.
>
>I mean, it is "respectable" to have a bank account - I doubt anyone is
>traumatized by having one but I trust none of you would dream of
>asking a stranger their bank balance for example!
>
>It is not a question of trauma or embarrassement, it is a question of
>courticy, a question of some (not by any means all) people not
>affording the same respect that they would to anyone else about a
>range of subjects.
>
>ps I of course dealt with the question in a way with which I was
>comfortable - but as I was bored on a train, I thought the question
>worth raising.
>
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> > 1. People How Asking How one Became Blind (wogg le4)
> > 2. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Mike Freeman)
> > 3. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Jim Portillo)
> > 4. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Kelby Carlson)
> > 5. a great place to meet wonderful people (Dana)
> > 6. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Gloria Whipple)
> > 7. Re: a great place to meet wonderful people (Michelle Medina)
> > 8. Re: a great place to meet wonderful people (Dana)
> > 9. Re: a great place to meet wonderful people (Kelby Carlson)
> > 10. Re: a great place to meet wonderful people (Dana)
> > 11. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Desiree Oudinot)
> > 12. Re: Washing, How to Avoid Colours in Clothes Running in The
> > Washing Machine (Judy jones)
> > 13. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Carly Mihalakis)
> > 14. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Cindy Handel)
> > 15. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Mike Freeman)
> > 16. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Mike Freeman)
> > 17. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Desiree Oudinot)
> > 18. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Jasmine Kotsay)
> > 19. Re: a great place to meet wonderful people (Jasmine Kotsay)
> > 20. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (dp)
> > 21. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Ray Foret Jr)
> > 22. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Ray Foret Jr)
> > 23. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
> > 24. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Sean Paul)
> > 25. Re: People How Asking How one Became Blind (Mike Freeman)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 23:05:50 +0100
> > From: wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com>
> > To: blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>, indtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID:
> > <CANR8ovC7RXXR1UUhyHj3bQYbBn2wBBBYj3ReD73KF4dRdFm4_A at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> > know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >
> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> > it appropriate in the particular context.
> >
> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> > about this all the time she knew me.
> >
> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> > currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> > make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> > really is an annoying individual.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:03:53 -0700
> > From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <8785EB94-6D76-4723-BAB2-ECBC0E0D3E6E at panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask. Frankly,
>I
> > don't understand why so many of us get hung up about this or why many of
>us
> > think this is so personal. After all, if we truly believe that it is
> > respectable to be blind, then we should just be able to answer the
>question
> > without emotional trauma or angst. We are always telling kids to ask about
> > blindness rather than shy away from us. I should think that what is true
>for
> > kids should be so for adults also.
> > Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start a
> > conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your blindness
> > because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied with. After all, we are
>a
> > minority.
> > Relax and just go with the flow.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:08:27 -0700
> > From: "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <51956702.8300450a.7362.1d89 at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Right on!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:04 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask. Frankly,
>I
> > don't understand why so many of us get hung up about this or why many of
>us
> > think this is so personal. After all, if we truly believe that it is
> > respectable to be blind, then we should just be able to answer the
>question
> > without emotional trauma or angst. We are always telling kids to ask about
> > blindness rather than shy away from us. I should think that what is true
> > for
> > kids should be so for adults also.
> > Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start a
> > conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your blindness
> > because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied with. After all, we are
> > a
> > minority.
> > Relax and just go with the flow.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:11:30 -0500
> > From: Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <519567b5.0903320a.5994.6784 at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > I've always found it funny the way people are so petrified of
> > offending you when they ask you about your blindness. I honestly
> > can't recall a time when I've truly been upset when someone asks
> > for information. People love to ask me about my eyes, my
> > technology, and (more than everything else) my dog. Actually,
> > I'll take the above statement back-the questions about the dog
> > get irritating after awhile, but not because they're personal,
> > it's just that they get asked so very often. Nonetheless, I
> > really don't mind answering people's questions. As much as I
> > think people should self-educate about a lot of things, not
> > everyone is going to, so every bit of education and "good press"
> > we can get out there helps us.
> >
> > Kelby
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:03:53 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask.
> > Frankly, I don't understand why so many of us get hung up about
> > this or why many of us think this is so personal. After all, if
> > we truly believe that it is respectable to be blind, then we
> > should just be able to answer the question without emotional
> > trauma or angst. We are always telling kids to ask about
> > blindness rather than shy away from us. I should think that what
> > is true for kids should be so for adults also.
> > Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start
> > a conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your
> > blindness because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied
> > with. After all, we are a minority.
> > Relax and just go with the flow.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they
> > don't
> > know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >
> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always
> > think
> > it appropriate in the particular context.
> >
> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had
> > wondered
> > about this all the time she knew me.
> >
> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as
> > I'm
> > currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling
> > to
> > make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult -
> > she
> > really is an annoying individual.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:14:06 -0400
> > From: "Dana" <dananolan at comcast.net>
> > To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID: <27200D8784B143BC97ED8080AA80CC64 at DanaPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Primarily we are in 20?s thirties and forties and if you want to meet that
> > special someone come on in and chat with us
> > 712 432 4848 room number is 3
> > Dana
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 16:23:48 -0700
> > From: "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <000001ce528c$6c8a8700$459f9500$@net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > It sure doesn't bother me one bit! I tell kids of grownups to ask them.
> >
> > Gloria Whipple
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 16:04
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask. Frankly,
>I
> > don't understand why so many of us get hung up about this or why many of
>us
> > think this is so personal. After all, if we truly believe that it is
> > respectable to be blind, then we should just be able to answer the
>question
> > without emotional trauma or angst. We are always telling kids to ask about
> > blindness rather than shy away from us. I should think that what is true
> > for
> > kids should be so for adults also.
> > Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start a
> > conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your blindness
> > because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied with. After all, we are
> > a
> > minority.
> > Relax and just go with the flow.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > et
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:23:58 -0400
> > From: Michelle Medina <michellem86 at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAFaqKLwbKhdG7Az1cjZx9Zdnf8H41HXp8riGG=vsnJFwBdju3Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > Is this 7 days a week or 1 day a week? Is it Christians or just any
> > blind person?
> > Thank you,
> > Chelle
> >
> > On 5/16/13, Dana <dananolan at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Primarily we are in 20?s thirties and forties and if you want to meet
> >> that
> >> special someone come on in and chat with us
> >> 712 432 4848 room number is 3
> >> Dana
> >> _______________________________________________
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>m
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:29:26 -0400
> > From: "Dana" <dananolan at comcast.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID: <514EE625DC744D01811C90ECA3E63589 at DanaPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > all kidns of people 7 days a week evenings is when we are busiest.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 18:33:33 -0500
> > From: Kelby Carlson <kelbycarlson at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID: <51956ce0.882b320a.5408.64bc at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Guys, this looks like spam.
> >
> > Kelby
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dana" <dananolan at comcast.net
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:29:26 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> >
> > all kidns of people 7 days a week evenings is when we are
> > busiest.
> >
> >
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> > n%40gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:37:22 -0400
> > From: "Dana" <dananolan at comcast.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID: <77DB213B4E9244DAA2AC121D0F423F86 at DanaPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> >
> > No no it is not spam we are truly a bunch of mostly blind peole who come
>to
> >
> > chat and I figured some of you might like a place to meet some new people.
> > I am a blind girl living in Virginia.
> > Dana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:47:15 -0400
> > From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAC7+D=xgjOn-durcRSM_Aomgb+UYcWSNuAGbibzWApndAeUmRA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi,
> > I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you
> > became blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew
> > someone like that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was
> > blinded), I can see how one might not want to talk about something
> > like that with strangers. Even veterans might have this problem if
> > their war injuries caused them to lose their sight. In other words, I
> > can see both sides of this. I think you should only tell people what
> > you're comfortable telling them. If how you became blind is something
> > highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't have to reveal that to
> > everyone you meet. After all, we don't normally go around displaying
> > our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered by most to be
> > undignified. But for someone like me, who was born blind, or for
> > people who have lost their sight to things like glaucoma or what have
> > you, there's no shame in talking about it.
> >
> > On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> blindtlk mailing list
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:53:45 -0600
> > From: "Judy jones" <jtj1 at cableone.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Washing, How to Avoid Colours in Clothes
> > Running in The Washing Machine
> > Message-ID: <ED5D80156A124631927F0A244D2ED867 at Judy>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My washing methods are very similar, reds always separate, new things by
> > them selves a few times. Hand washing especially delicates, go in warm,
>on
> >
> > light wash, and then hang dry. Is easy to do in our dry climate. If you
> > "handwash" with gentle soap, like a hand soap, don't use too much because
>of
> >
> > the agitation and too many bubbles to form.
> >
> >
> > Judy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Washing,How to Avoid Colours in Clothes Running in
> > The Washing Machine
> >
> >
> >>I do something similar, only I wash everything in cold water. And I have
> >> several things I don't dry or only dry for a few minutes. If I have a lot
> >>
> >> of
> >> red, or new red things, I wash them separate. I've found that even things
> >> that say hand wash, mostly can be safely washed in the machine, but then
> >> I
> >> don't dry those at all.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean
> >> Paul
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:33 AM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Washing, How to Avoid Colours in Clothes Running
> >> in
> >> The Washing Machine
> >>
> >> Never heard that called the college method, but, yes, remembering back to
> >> those days. I can see where that'd fit. I call that the batchler method &
> >> even though I'm married now & have been for years. I do all the laundry
> >> round here & for the most part still use that method.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> >> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 07:25
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Washing,How to Avoid Colours in Clothes Running
> >> in
> >> The Washing Machine
> >>
> >>
> >>> Plain white vinegar will help a lot to keep colors from bleeding. Soak
> >>> a
> >>> new garment in vinegar for a few hours or overnight before washing.
> >>> Some
> >>> of the new dye may still come out, so it's important to wash with like
> >>> colors. Red seems to be the worst for bleeding into other colors. I
> >>> wash
> >>> new red clothes with other reds if I have enough or dark jeans or towels
> >>> if I don't. My towels are navy blue, so if the red colors them it won't
> >>> be
> >>
> >>> noticeable.
> >>>
> >>> I don't buy a lot of new clothes, so mostly I use the college dormitory
> >>> method of washing...I cram everything into the washer together, jeans,
> >>> socks, colored shirts and wash it all on regular warm water wash and
> >>> cold
> >>> rinse. 99% of the time this method works just fine. I'm not a fancy
> >>> person though. I don't have a bunch of delicates or clothes that can't
> >>> go
> >>
> >>> in the dryer. I'm careful with new clothes for a few washes and then
> >>> after that I go with the easiest method. I used to do separate loads for
> >>> jeans, colors, whites etc. I will do that now if I'm going to bleach
> >>> the
> >>> whites or something, but honestly I haven't noticed any difference
> >>> between
> >>
> >>> separating everything and the college method. At least not for clothes
> >>> that I've had for a while.
> >>>
> >>> If I know I've spilled something on the item I treat it with a stain
> >>> removal product and wash as usual. After it comes out of the wash I'll
> >>> ask a sighted person to make sure the stain came out before wearing.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>> Julie
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 17:50:02 -0700
> > From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>, Blind Talk Mailing
> > List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20130516174819.021fa358 at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi, Mike,
> >
> > Sing it, my brother in bi blastoma!
> > for today, Car04:03 PM 5/16/2013, Mike Freeman wrote:
> >>People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask.
> >>Frankly, I don't understand why so many of us get hung up about this
> >>or why many of us think this is so personal. After all, if we truly
> >>believe that it is respectable to be blind, then we should just be
> >>able to answer the question without emotional trauma or angst. We
> >>are always telling kids to ask about blindness rather than shy away
> >>from us. I should think that what is true for kids should be so for
> >>adults also.
> >>Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start a
> >>conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your
> >>blindness because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied with.
> >>After all, we are a minority.
> >>Relax and just go with the flow.
> >>
> >>Mike Freeman
> >>
> >>
> >>On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> > know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >> >
> >> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> > it appropriate in the particular context.
> >> >
> >> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> > about this all the time she knew me.
> >> >
> >> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> > currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> > make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> > really is an annoying individual.
> >> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:25:48 -0400
> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <5A31269C2FBF4D1EB325BBED8AF388EC at CindyPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Well, I think people are just curious. But, if you don't want to share
>this
> >
> > kind of personal information with someone, just tell them you're
> > uncomfortable talking about it.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wogg le4
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:05 PM
> > To: blindtlk ; indtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> > know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >
> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> > it appropriate in the particular context.
> >
> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> > about this all the time she knew me.
> >
> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> > currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> > make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> > really is an annoying individual.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:42:19 -0700
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <015201ce52b8$ebb87ec0$c3297c40$@panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > But how do we square this for ourselves with the NFB position that (a) it
> > is
> > respectable to be blind and (b) that with training and opportunity,
> > blindness can be reduced to a physical nuisance? It seems to me that
> > discomfort at discussing the topic is tantamount to being discomfited by
> > one's own blindness.
> >
> > Just my $0.02-worth.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> > Handel
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:26 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > Well, I think people are just curious. But, if you don't want to share
> > this
> > kind of personal information with someone, just tell them you're
> > uncomfortable talking about it.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wogg le4
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:05 PM
> > To: blindtlk ; indtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't know
>one
> > very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >
> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think it
> > appropriate in the particular context.
> >
> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered about
> > this all the time she knew me.
> >
> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> > currently
> > stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to make
>conversation,
> > which I'm finding particularly difficult - she really is an annoying
> > individual.
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 21:50:06 -0700
> > From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <015501ce52ba$00d8dc90$028a95b0$@panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > It came to my mind that syphilis would also be one of those
> > less-than-savory
> > blindness causes -- but that's rare now.
> >
> > Incidentally, Desiree, I also knew a person who tried to commit suicide;
> > she
> > shot herself, woke up realizing she hadn't done the job, shot herself
> > *again* and woke up in the hospital realizing all she'd done was blind
> > herself. She had been a brilliant mathematician and that brilliance was
> > gone
> > when she recovered but she was still very bright -- and blind. She went on
> > to lead a normal life.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree
> > Oudinot
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:47 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > Hi,
> > I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you became
> > blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew someone like
> > that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was blinded), I can see
> > how
> > one might not want to talk about something like that with strangers. Even
> > veterans might have this problem if their war injuries caused them to lose
> > their sight. In other words, I can see both sides of this. I think you
> > should only tell people what you're comfortable telling them. If how you
> > became blind is something highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't have
> > to reveal that to everyone you meet. After all, we don't normally go
>around
> > displaying our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered by most
> > to be undignified. But for someone like me, who was born blind, or for
> > people who have lost their sight to things like glaucoma or what have you,
> > there's no shame in talking about it.
> >
> > On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> gmail.com
> >>
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 01:05:07 -0400
> > From: Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAC7+D=ysrV3w0OGxiKh19vvgVvo0n-Y3VU_j-3BmXaiY0XLQow at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I understand what you're saying. But would you advocate that everyone
> > should know this person's history? Blindness is an uncomfortable topic
> > for the average person in society to talk about; suicide, or attempted
> > suicide, even more so. Combine the two and you might just send someone
> > running away screaming. Sure, you could claim that they're not worth
> > your time, but the fact remains that discretion is the key in such
> > sensitive situations.
> > As I said, though, something like that is probably the exception to the
> > rule.
> >
> > On 5/17/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >> It came to my mind that syphilis would also be one of those
> >> less-than-savory
> >> blindness causes -- but that's rare now.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, Desiree, I also knew a person who tried to commit suicide;
> >> she
> >> shot herself, woke up realizing she hadn't done the job, shot herself
> >> *again* and woke up in the hospital realizing all she'd done was blind
> >> herself. She had been a brilliant mathematician and that brilliance was
> >> gone
> >> when she recovered but she was still very bright -- and blind. She went
> >> on
> >> to lead a normal life.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree
> >> Oudinot
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:47 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you
> >> became
> >> blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew someone like
> >> that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was blinded), I can see
> >> how
> >> one might not want to talk about something like that with strangers. Even
> >> veterans might have this problem if their war injuries caused them to
> >> lose
> >> their sight. In other words, I can see both sides of this. I think you
> >> should only tell people what you're comfortable telling them. If how you
> >> became blind is something highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't
> >> have
> >> to reveal that to everyone you meet. After all, we don't normally go
> >> around
> >> displaying our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered by
> >> most
> >> to be undignified. But for someone like me, who was born blind, or for
> >> people who have lost their sight to things like glaucoma or what have
> >> you,
> >> there's no shame in talking about it.
> >>
> >> On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >>> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>>
> >>> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >>> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>>
> >>> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >>> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>>
> >>> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >>> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >>> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >>> really is an annoying individual.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> blindtlk mailing list
> >>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
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> >>> blindtlk:
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> >>> gmail.com
> >>>
> >>
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>com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 00:10:40 -0700
> > From: Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <5195d80c.0615420a.5710.fffffab3 at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > I love answering questions about my blindness. That's part of
> > what makes me want to be a teacher. I want people to feel that
> > it's okay to ask me questions, even about my blindness. Unless
> > someone is rude when they ask, I love answering any questions
> > about blindness, about anything, really.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com
> > To: blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>, indtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Thu, 16 May 2013 23:05:50 +0100
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they
> > don't
> > know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >
> > I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always
> > think
> > it appropriate in the particular context.
> >
> > this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had
> > wondered
> > about this all the time she knew me.
> >
> > I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as
> > I'm
> > currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling
> > to
> > make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> > really is an annoying individual.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindtlk mailing list
> > blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> > for blindtlk:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/jasmine.kot
> > say%40gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 00:10:38 -0700
> > From: Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> > Message-ID: <5195d80b.0615420a.5710.fffffab0 at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR; format=flowed
> >
> > What state is this number for?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dana" <dananolan at comcast.net
> > To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:14:06 -0400
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] a great place to meet wonderful people
> >
> > Primarily we are in 20?? thirties and forties and if you want
> > to meet that special someone come on in and chat with us
> > 712 432 4848 room number is 3
> > Dana
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 05:01:09 -0500
> > From: dp <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <5DBE8086-C9BC-480D-8CDD-C2A4FAA288AD at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Yes, I'm the same way. I hate how people think its rude to ask those kinds
> > of questions, it isn't really. It educates the public about us.
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > On 17 mai 2013, at 02:10, Jasmine Kotsay <jasmine.kotsay at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I love answering questions about my blindness. That's part of what makes
> >> me want to be a teacher. I want people to feel that it's okay to ask me
> >> questions, even about my blindness. Unless someone is rude when they
>ask,
> >> I love answering any questions about blindness, about anything, really.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com
> >> To: blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>, indtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> Date sent: Thu, 16 May 2013 23:05:50 +0100
> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
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> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 06:38:20 -0500
> > From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <C0457662-DCBF-40FC-9841-FD8D31DE1B4D at att.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > For my part, I say it cannot be squared away. Either you are comfortable
> > with yourself as a blind person or you are not. High time one made up
>one's
> > mind aint it?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> > built-in!
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 11:42 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> >> But how do we square this for ourselves with the NFB position that (a) it
> >> is
> >> respectable to be blind and (b) that with training and opportunity,
> >> blindness can be reduced to a physical nuisance? It seems to me that
> >> discomfort at discussing the topic is tantamount to being discomfited by
> >> one's own blindness.
> >>
> >> Just my $0.02-worth.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> >> Handel
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:26 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Well, I think people are just curious. But, if you don't want to share
> >> this
> >> kind of personal information with someone, just tell them you're
> >> uncomfortable talking about it.
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wogg le4
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:05 PM
> >> To: blindtlk ; indtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't know
> >> one
> >> very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think it
> >> appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about
> >> this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently
> >> stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to make
> >> conversation,
> >> which I'm finding particularly difficult - she really is an annoying
> >> individual.
> >>
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> >>
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 06:39:54 -0500
> > From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <E14D3C78-1026-4242-B5B7-09AA8305B8C5 at att.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Ah, but, aren't we trying to educate the public that it's respectable to
>be
> > blind? Well, aren't we? IF not, then you are right. IF so, well,
>perhaps
> > it's time to see just where or if the rubber truly meats the road.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> > built-in!
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> > On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I understand what you're saying. But would you advocate that everyone
> >> should know this person's history? Blindness is an uncomfortable topic
> >> for the average person in society to talk about; suicide, or attempted
> >> suicide, even more so. Combine the two and you might just send someone
> >> running away screaming. Sure, you could claim that they're not worth
> >> your time, but the fact remains that discretion is the key in such
> >> sensitive situations.
> >> As I said, though, something like that is probably the exception to the
> >> rule.
> >>
> >> On 5/17/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >>> It came to my mind that syphilis would also be one of those
> >>> less-than-savory
> >>> blindness causes -- but that's rare now.
> >>>
> >>> Incidentally, Desiree, I also knew a person who tried to commit suicide;
> >>> she
> >>> shot herself, woke up realizing she hadn't done the job, shot herself
> >>> *again* and woke up in the hospital realizing all she'd done was blind
> >>> herself. She had been a brilliant mathematician and that brilliance was
> >>> gone
> >>> when she recovered but she was still very bright -- and blind. She went
> >>> on
> >>> to lead a normal life.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree
> >>> Oudinot
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:47 PM
> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you
> >>> became
> >>> blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew someone like
> >>> that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was blinded), I can see
> >>> how
> >>> one might not want to talk about something like that with strangers.
> >>> Even
> >>> veterans might have this problem if their war injuries caused them to
> >>> lose
> >>> their sight. In other words, I can see both sides of this. I think you
> >>> should only tell people what you're comfortable telling them. If how you
> >>> became blind is something highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't
> >>> have
> >>> to reveal that to everyone you meet. After all, we don't normally go
> >>> around
> >>> displaying our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered by
> >>> most
> >>> to be undignified. But for someone like me, who was born blind, or for
> >>> people who have lost their sight to things like glaucoma or what have
> >>> you,
> >>> there's no shame in talking about it.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >>>> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >>>> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>>>
> >>>> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >>>> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >>>> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >>>> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >>>> really is an annoying individual.
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> blindtlk mailing list
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> >>>> blindtlk:
> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/turtlepower17%40
> >>>> gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>
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>com
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> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 08:13:53 -0500
> > From: "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us>
> > To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <8FE3DA4A52652B4D8EC80883B3DC12338D69FF0FF4 at tiger>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I guess I've answered the question so many times, that it has lost any
> > pertinence. I generally give the shortest answer possible. For a lot of
>us,
> > the "why" of blindness is the least important part. Now what is
>interesting
> > is that in my job, working with parents of blind (and I have to add it)
>and
> > visually impaired children, one of the things they are the most interested
> > in is the diagnosis. Growing up, the "why" really didn't affect how we
>were
> > taught. Today, either because there is more knowledge in the field, or
>that
> > we can better tailor the educational experience, we work with students
> > differently with different visual, and sometimes additional conditions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ray Foret
> > Jr
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 6:38 AM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> > For my part, I say it cannot be squared away. Either you are comfortable
> > with yourself as a blind person or you are not. High time one made up
>one's
> > mind aint it?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> > built-in!
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 11:42 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> >> But how do we square this for ourselves with the NFB position that (a)
> >> it is respectable to be blind and (b) that with training and
> >> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a physical nuisance? It seems
> >> to me that discomfort at discussing the topic is tantamount to being
> >> discomfited by one's own blindness.
> >>
> >> Just my $0.02-worth.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> >> Handel
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:26 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Well, I think people are just curious. But, if you don't want to
> >> share this kind of personal information with someone, just tell them
> >> you're uncomfortable talking about it.
> >>
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wogg le4
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:05 PM
> >> To: blindtlk ; indtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> Subject: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>
> >> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>
> >> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>
> >> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >> really is an annoying individual.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
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> >> on.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> m
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:41:49 -0400
> > From: "Sean Paul" <newsandtraffic at aol.com>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <07345A20612747F39AE6578BBD4510A7 at PC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Agree there Mike, well said. I think that when people ask that question.
>We
> >
> > as blind folk should take the opertunity to use that as a time of
>education
> >
> > about how we got there & what we do once we are there. Getting all upset
> > tight & out of sorts about it doesn't solve the situation at all. In fact,
> > if you really get out there, You make the rest of us look bad.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
> > To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 19:08
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >
> >
> >> Right on!
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> >> Freeman
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:04 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>
> >> People are just so curious that they can't stand it so they ask. Frankly,
> >>
> >> I
> >> don't understand why so many of us get hung up about this or why many of
> >> us
> >> think this is so personal. After all, if we truly believe that it is
> >> respectable to be blind, then we should just be able to answer the
> >> question
> >> without emotional trauma or angst. We are always telling kids to ask
> >> about
> >> blindness rather than shy away from us. I should think that what is true
> >> for
> >> kids should be so for adults also.
> >> Alternatively, some people can't seem to figure out how to start a
> >> conversation without making eye contact so they ask about your blindness
> >> because it is what they're emotionally preoccupied with. After all, we
>are
> >>
> >> a
> >> minority.
> >> Relax and just go with the flow.
> >>
> >> Mike Freeman
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 16, 2013, at 15:05, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >>> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>>
> >>> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >>> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>>
> >>> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >>> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>>
> >>> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >>> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >>> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >>> really is an annoying individual.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> blindtlk mailing list
> >>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> blindtlk:
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindtlk_nfbnet.org/k7uij%40panix.co
> >>> m
> >>
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> >> om
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:13:31 -0700
> > From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > Message-ID: <296E6650-127D-40AB-8594-0C2993B6CD65 at panix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > My style would be to just let it all hang out. If a person is
>uncomfortable
> > with my answer, it's his problem; he shouldn't have asked if he wasn't
> > willing to deal with the result! But YMMV.
> >
> > Mike Freeman
> >
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 22:05, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
> >
> >> I understand what you're saying. But would you advocate that everyone
> >> should know this person's history? Blindness is an uncomfortable topic
> >> for the average person in society to talk about; suicide, or attempted
> >> suicide, even more so. Combine the two and you might just send someone
> >> running away screaming. Sure, you could claim that they're not worth
> >> your time, but the fact remains that discretion is the key in such
> >> sensitive situations.
> >> As I said, though, something like that is probably the exception to the
> >> rule.
> >>
> >> On 5/17/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >>> It came to my mind that syphilis would also be one of those
> >>> less-than-savory
> >>> blindness causes -- but that's rare now.
> >>>
> >>> Incidentally, Desiree, I also knew a person who tried to commit suicide;
> >>> she
> >>> shot herself, woke up realizing she hadn't done the job, shot herself
> >>> *again* and woke up in the hospital realizing all she'd done was blind
> >>> herself. She had been a brilliant mathematician and that brilliance was
> >>> gone
> >>> when she recovered but she was still very bright -- and blind. She went
> >>> on
> >>> to lead a normal life.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Desiree
> >>> Oudinot
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:47 PM
> >>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you
> >>> became
> >>> blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew someone like
> >>> that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was blinded), I can see
> >>> how
> >>> one might not want to talk about something like that with strangers.
> >>> Even
> >>> veterans might have this problem if their war injuries caused them to
> >>> lose
> >>> their sight. In other words, I can see both sides of this. I think you
> >>> should only tell people what you're comfortable telling them. If how you
> >>> became blind is something highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't
> >>> have
> >>> to reveal that to everyone you meet. After all, we don't normally go
> >>> around
> >>> displaying our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered by
> >>> most
> >>> to be undignified. But for someone like me, who was born blind, or for
> >>> people who have lost their sight to things like glaucoma or what have
> >>> you,
> >>> there's no shame in talking about it.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> >>>> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always think
> >>>> it appropriate in the particular context.
> >>>>
> >>>> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had wondered
> >>>> about this all the time she knew me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> >>>> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> >>>> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> >>>> really is an annoying individual.
> >>>>
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