[Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind

Sat May 18 08:41:37 UTC 2013

Hey, Mike,

 From what I can tell, the Federation, as it is constituted 
today,  seems to be all high on  thundering what it sees as the will 
of blind folk. more often than not, such a thundering drounds out 
what blindness self sufficiency means to other points of views, and 
life experiences... To me, this smacks of too much hmogeny.
for todayy, Car  06:56 PM 5/17/2013, Mike Freeman wrote:
>You got it! However, we do offer this view with the provisos that if and
>only if the blind person has good training and opportunity, his/her
>blindness can be reduced to a damned nuisance.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>Mihalakis
>Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
>To: Blind Talk Mailing List; Blind Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
>
>Good morning, don't organizations such as the Federation teach that
>blindness is nothing more than an inconvenience, another personal
>characteristic, like eye or hair color? Oughtn't then we also act as such,
>while speaking of the condition of our peepers, and how they came to be as
>such?Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >Ah, but, aren't we trying to educate the public that it's respectable
> >to be blind?  Well, aren't we?  IF not, then you are right.  IF so,
> >well, perhaps it's time to see just where or if the rubber truly meats
> >the road.
> >
> >
> >Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >blind built-in!
> >Sincerely,
> >The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >
> >On May 17, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
>wrote:
> >
> > > I understand what you're saying. But would you advocate that
> > > everyone should know this person's history? Blindness is an
> > > uncomfortable topic for the average person in society to talk about;
> > > suicide, or attempted suicide, even more so. Combine the two and you
> > > might just send someone running away screaming. Sure, you could
> > > claim that they're not worth your time, but the fact remains that
> > > discretion is the key in such sensitive situations.
> > > As I said, though, something like that is probably the exception
> > to the rule.
> > >
> > > On 5/17/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> > >> It came to my mind that syphilis would also be one of those
> > >> less-than-savory blindness causes -- but that's rare now.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, Desiree, I also knew a person who tried to commit
> > >> suicide; she shot herself, woke up realizing she hadn't done the
> > >> job, shot herself
> > >> *again* and woke up in the hospital realizing all she'd done was
> > >> blind herself. She had been a brilliant mathematician and that
> > >> brilliance was gone when she recovered but she was still very
> > >> bright -- and blind. She went on to lead a normal life.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > >> Desiree Oudinot
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:47 PM
> > >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] People How Asking How one Became Blind
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I think there are two angles to consider here. If, for example, you
> > >> became blind after trying unsuccessfully to kill yourself (I knew
> > >> someone like that, he shot himself in the head, survived, but was
> > >> blinded), I can see how one might not want to talk about something
> > >> like that with strangers. Even veterans might have this problem if
> > >> their war injuries caused them to lose their sight. In other words,
> > >> I can see both sides of this. I think you should only tell people
> > >> what you're comfortable telling them. If how you became blind is
> > >> something highly personal or traumatic, you shouldn't have to
> > >> reveal that to everyone you meet. After all, we don't
> > normally go around
> > >> displaying our emotional baggage for all to see, that's considered
> > >> by most to be undignified. But for someone like me, who was born
> > >> blind, or for people who have lost their sight to things like
> > >> glaucoma or what have you, there's no shame in talking about it.
> > >>
> > >> On 5/16/13, wogg le4 <woggle4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Hi, I often people ask what is a personal question when they don't
> > >>> know one very well. Why do they feel justified in doing so?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have no difficulty in discussing the subject but don't always
> > >>> think it appropriate in the particular context.
> > >>>
> > >>> this email was prompted by a girl who remarked that she had
> > >>> wondered about this all the time she knew me.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think she's a bit wierd anyway - it just got me thinking, as I'm
> > >>> currently stuck on a train sitting beside this girl, struggling to
> > >>> make conversation, which I'm finding particularly difficult - she
> > >>> really is an annoying individual.
> > >>>
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