[Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17

Mark Tardif markspark at roadrunner.com
Wed May 22 15:12:27 UTC 2013


We have issues, in our culture, about respecting other people's space.  You 
don't get physically too close unless you are fairly certain that person 
will accept it and may respond likewise.  I am not going to hug someone I 
meet for the first time unless I know that the setting encourages that.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Carly Mihalakis
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:08 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17

Hi, constantly barefooted wonder,

No, not groping buttts and boobs or anything, but I hug everybody.
Just hafta do it. How else, in the absence of eye contact, are you
supposed to feel connected? 06:41 PM 5/17/2013, you wrote:
>Maybe, but, surely, you're not going to tell me you go around groping 
>people do you?  I can't believe that.  I believe touching is very important 
>yes:  but, the circumstances have to be right.
>
>
>Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>built-in!
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
>On May 17, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Good morning, constantly barefooted Ray,
> >
> > I dunno about you and others, to me, a person's body means much
> more than does his face. Although having an idea of a person's face is 
> often useful information, it by no means constitutes his attractiveness, 
> or lack there of.
> > I'm very curious about this.
> > Car:
> >> I ain't either.  NO way.  After all, we've got enough to  deal
> with having the sdtupid stereotype that a blind person feels people's 
> faces to see what they look like-I can just imagine it now.
> >>        "Hi, nice to meet you." (then he runs his hands all over
> her face.  Well, enough.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for
> the blind built-in!
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >>
> >> On May 17, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Er, um, I'm not going to touch that one!
> >> >
> >> > Mike Freeman
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On May 17, 2013, at 11:11, Carly Mihala kis
> <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Good morning, Gary,
> >> >>
> >> >>       Yes, and by a same tokin, why is it that touching
> someone's butt or other parts of their  body, is any different from 
> touching say, their nose, or even their hand? I mean, to some this may 
> sound a little outlandish, but I know for me, I don't care where someone 
> wants to touch me. Also, don't people look upon things with their ocular 
> organs fairly indiscriminately? Yet, if you suggest touching the same 
> gnarly bit with their hands, often sighted folk are reviled. Personally, I 
> see no difference. So, what ol' sighty looks upon with his eyes, I wanna 
> see too, but in a way I know how.
> >> >> What do others think?
> >> >> By the way, I am not uptight about talking about either my
> cause of blindness or my age, if that's what someone wants to know. The 
> longer things remain a mystery, the more people will feel uneasy and   the 
> result will be our further alienation. for today, Car
> >> >>> be offended if someone asks my age? As a man the world would
> say no. If I
> >> >>> were a woman, I should be offended by the question and you should 
> >> >>> be
> >> >>> apologetic about asking. Why? If I'm asked how tall I am, I
> answer. If I'm
> >> >>> asked how much I weigh, I hesitate and wonder why they want
> to know and then
> >> >>> decide whether to tell them or fudge on the figure. Why is
> my weight less a
> >> >>> subject for question than my height? Perhaps because I feel
> guilty about one
> >> >>> and think I had no control over the other?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gary
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of wogg le4
> >> >>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:23 PM
> >> >>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It isn't that I am uncomfortable with the topic.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> For me everything depends on context. As noted this person is not a
> >> >>> friend - is not someone I particularly like and dropped the 
> >> >>> question
> >> >>> right out of the blue - and I remain of the veiw that it shows 
> >> >>> really
> >> >
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