[Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
Carly Mihalakis
carlymih at comcast.net
Wed Jul 2 00:37:49 UTC 2014
Good afternoon, all,
Okay. I ought not have even opened my FAT mouth, having
never worked with a guide dog, I was definitely speaking out of turn,
without even considdering the intricate relationship between the dog
and his user. So sorry, some of us are experiencing a little foot in mouth!
I stand soundly corrected. Thank you.At 09:10 AM 7/1/2014, you wrote:
>Good morning Christine and everyone,
>
> You need to be careful with that one. If you tell everyone your
> guide dog's name you can draw unwanted attention to yourself and
> cause your dog to become solicitous; craving attention from other
> people. This can lead to serious dog distraction problems and can
> undermine the relationship between yourself and your dog.
>
> Something I and I'm sure others on this list have had happen is
> when you tell someone your dog's name they behave as if you gave
> them a license to command them and start talking to them actions
> that can cause your dog to be distracted from its work. Please be
> careful with this one. Telling someone your dog's name may put them
> at ease around you but it can also open a nasty can of worms.
> Finally when you meet someone do you want to be their center of
> attention or should the dog be the center of attention? My dog
> isn't responsible for conducting business transactions, determining
> when it is safe to cross the street or not, or making friendly
> conversation. I only tell someone my dog's name if they're someone
> I know to prevent the kind of issues discussed above. It's okay for
> folks to be friends with your dog but too much attention given to
> the dog can lead to serious problems in your team work with the dog
> and create unwanted attention from the public and promote the false
> misconceptions related to guide dogs and their use by the blind.
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Olivares via blindtlk"
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>To: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>
>
>Amen Carly! My husband and I applied for guide dogs, and though we
>have not heard whether we got accepted, if we did, I know I would
>want everyone and their brother to stop me and ask for my guide
>dog's name. People are very comfortable with animals, sometimes more
>than humans, and by giving our dog's name, we can help these people
>feel comfortable around us and humanity as a whole.
>
>Animals are very therapeutic, and by sharing them, we can bring lots
>of healing to this world. I would proudly show off my dog because
>the dog is a part of me. It's like sharing your spouse.
>
>thanks,
>Christine
>On Jul 1, 2014, at 12:55 AM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>>Good afternoon, Liz,
>>
>>A Sociologist thinker who studied people he refers too as normals
>>(meaning people un effected), and in turn blind people Have you
>>ever begged a question of why normals are curious about knowing
>>your dog? I believe people experience blindness in terms of a
>>second hand, on a person2person basis. If you, as I do, recruit
>>ol'Sighty to guide you, even when you might not particularly need
>>help, you can sort of, through humor and straight talk show them
>>how approachable, even humorous we can be?
>>If I had a dog, you better believe I would want people to know
>>about us, how we work together, how are sharing is symbiotic in
>>nature. So, if you are proud of your 4-legged leader, perhaps you
>>can be proud to share him with whomever should want to know him?
>>So, Liz, Why are normals, generally afraid or at least ill at ease around us?
>>I imagine it is primarily because people have rebuffed
>>their gestures of support at least, and at worst have down-right
>>rude or emasculating. The average sighted person's being so
>>intrigued since, as Peter said, almost as a rule normals never,
>>ever come into personal contact with a blink so, obviously it is
>>their instinct to act like any blind people with whom they make
>>personal contact are you know, zoo animals. For a change, try
>>stepping outside of yourself, understanding that presences are
>>scariest while submerged by darkness and, don't be rude since the
>>last thing you want is for all blinks to be ascribed with having
>>chips on their shoulders? Perhaps, be mindful of working toward the
>>end of bringing levity and light when uncomfortable, not hostility?
>>Car 07:03 AM 6/29/2014, Elizabeth Campbell via blindtlk wrote:
>>>Hello all,
>>>Besides the unwanted prayers, those of us with guide dogs face an incredible
>>>amount of what I call public interference.
>>>I don't know how others feel, but it bothers me that people come up to me at
>>>Starbucks or while I'm waiting for the bus and always ask for my dog's name.
>>>I sometimes say that I don't give that information out when my dog is
>>>working, or I sometimes ask the person for their name. The response is
>>>always that they just want to know the dog's name. I find that to be very
>>>offensive because again, we are not seen as people.
>>>
>>>Just my thoughts.
>>>
>>>Liz
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif
>>>via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 AM
>>>To: Marion Gwizdala; Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>>>
>>>Amen, Marion, I couldn't agree with your more. And really, what gives
>>>someone the right to violate your personal space in that way? And you are
>>>right, this suggests that this person in their ignorance doesn't view you as
>>>
>>>a whole person. That says more about them than it does about you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mark Tardif
>>>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Marion Gwizdala via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:17 AM
>>>To: 'Carly Mihalakis' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>>>
>>>Car,
>>>I will respectfully disagree! First of all, no one has the right to
>>>touch me without my permission. Secondly, those who feel a need to pray for
>>>me to be healed of my blindness is tantamount to someone wishing to pray for
>>>someone to heal them of their dark skin color. The underlying judgement they
>>>are making is that I am not a whole person because of my blindness, an
>>>assumption I reject. In fact, I tell those wishing to pray for my healing
>>>that I have already been healed of the myths and misconceptions that
>>>blindness is a malady to be healed; therefore, I tell them, I will pray for
>>>them to be healed of their ignorance and misconceptions. I also share with
>>>them that my blindness is actually a source of healing for others, helping
>>>those who are blind heal themselves of the same limitations I once placed
>>>upon myself.
>>>
>>>Blessings!
>>>Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>>>Mihalakis via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:06 PM
>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>>>
>>>Hi, Eric,
>>>
>>>Just know that, people's placing their hands on your eyes and praying is not
>>>so much about you, or your blindness,but about their spirituality. You said
>>>yourself, you resented when others tried challenging your faith. Perhaps,
>>>you extend the same acceptance as is your expectation of others?
>>>Car
>>> >Arielle, I have your mindset, as well. As I get older, my tolerance
>>> >level shrinks. I'm 5-9, and people have even bad-mouthed me for not
>>> >accepting my lack by not taking their help, wanting to become violent.
>>> >And one person even criticized me for my faith in God, when I,
>>>specifically, was praying
>>> >for a new cane after it was broken. Two things are out-of-bounds,
>>> >praying for my blindness because they feel sorry for me, and laying
>>> >their hands on my eyes.
>>> >
>>> >Eric
>>> >..
>>> >
>>> >..
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>>> >Eric from Los Angeles. Live life! Love community! Eric on Facebook:
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