[Blindtlk] Thank you very much!

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sat Mar 8 23:23:28 UTC 2014 

Yeah! Remember that W.C. fields figured that water poisoned him! (grin)

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
Silverman
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 1:47 PM
To: Judy Jones; Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thank you very much!

Another trick is to bring a water bottle with you to the buffet restaurant
and then you don't have to worry about getting a drink (unless you don't
like drinking water).

Arielle

On 3/8/14, Judy Jones <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
> Probably in those cases it's best to get assistance, especially if 
> your in a
>
> time crunch.  That begins once you are checking into the restaurant, 
> and you
>
> can ask then.
>
> Judy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: justin williams
> Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 6:41 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thank you very much!
>
> I have some idea as to what I would do, but who do you do to learn a 
> buffet on the run at a hotel like that?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 8:35 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thank you very much!
>
> I carry trays just as Linda described.  If I need to carry a drink on 
> the tray I put it so that I can hook my thumb around it.  So the hand 
> that is supporting the tray against my hip has my fingers curled 
> around and underneath palm down, my thumb hooks around the cup at the 
> edge of the tray.
>
> I'm not really holding the cup so much as making sure it doesn't slide 
> around and checking to make sure it's level.
>
> I handle buffets in a variety of ways depending on the situation, the 
> proximity of available help and my mood at the moment.  Generally I 
> like to fill my own plate.  I have someone else tell me what's what.  
> I move my hand around the edge to find the spoon and get what I want.  
> If the spoon isn't easily found or if it's fallen into the bowl, I'll 
> ask my reader to show me where it is.
>
> Sometimes I'll go up to the buffet and let my reader fill my plate for me.
> Sometimes I'll sit at the table and let someone do everything for me.
> Sometimes I do my plate and have someone else get my drink and 
> sometimes I'll make two trips, one for the food and one for the drink.  
> Sometimes I'm tired and just skip the drink.  I've been at hotels with 
> the free breakfast and managed the whole thing without a reader 
> because it was early and no one was around.
>
> I'd suggest trying out some different approaches, see what works in 
> what situation and do something different if it didn't work as well as 
> you wanted.  Practice helps too.  Oh, if you wanted to practice 
> carrying a tray at home, a cookie sheet works great!
>
> Julie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 6:23 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Thank you very much!
>
> When I was sighted, I would spill things all the time, so I would not 
> blame that on being blind.  Now that I am blind, I have not had an
accident yet.
> It will happen, but not because I am blind, it will be because I am 
> just clumsy sometimes.
>
> I read another response that said you just have to take small steps.  
> It might be a hassle the first couple of time, but you can get the hang of
it.
> .  I was at a blind training center a couple of years ago and we were 
> taught to hold the tray just above the hip bone, pressing into your 
> side with enough pressure so that the tray remains straight and stable 
> along the hip line.  The arm is over the top of the tray and the hand 
> hold the edge of the tray that is away from the body so that you can 
> press the tray into your body so the tray is stable and it will not 
> fall.  Then you can use the other hand for your cane.  It worked very 
> well for me.  I know there are other techniques and you have to find 
> out what works for you.  If you can get a cheap tray from eBay or a 
> thrift shop then you can always practice at home.
> Just try putting a bookor something on the tray and practice.  Then 
> you may be more confident carrying at least one plate at the 
> restaurant and jusst letting the waitress bring your drink.  just my two
cents contribution.
>
>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 5:49 PM, "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I just wanted to say thank you for your posts and suggestions.  I 
>> think you all basically were right on with what my family and people 
>> said about it being too challenging and a big hassle and not really 
>> worth trying on my own.  This would be difficult for a blind person 
>> without any sight, and someone sighted also reminded me that carrying 
>> a tray with food would not be very wise of me because I'd easily have 
>> the chance of spilling or accidents.
>> Not really wise to try and use a cane and carry a lot of food.
>> Believe me, I have no problem asking for any kind of help.  It might 
>> just be easier to go grab a burger somewhere.
>> Thanks again for your thoughts.  It's always good to get ideas.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Arielle Silverman
>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:00 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Handling a big buffet
>>
>> And I think it goes without saying that if you get extra help from 
>> wait staff, be sure to tip generously. That makes it a partnership 
>> and makes it more likely they will want to help you in the future.
>>
>> Arielle
>>
>>> On 3/7/14, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>>> First, there are no dumb questions. Secondly, given a choice, I 
>>> don't do buffets. Not given a choice, it depends upon the situation.
>>> Preferably, I ask someone for help. If it is at a conference, 
>>> particularly for parents of blind children, I do as much as I can of 
>>> it for myself. If I need to locate the utensil, I work around the 
>>> outside
>> of the container to find the handle.
>>> I will generally take too little on to the plate, rather than too 
>>> much. I can always come back. I ask what is in the container. I find 
>>> tongs a bother since there does not seem to be enough tactility to 
>>> tell what is being grasped in them, and sometimes how much is in them.
>>> I find building a salad to be the most difficult.
>>>
>>> I always make a second trip for the beverage, since I have the plate 
>>> in one hand, and the utensils and napkin in my pocket. Again, I may 
>>> ask someone to grab me a deink when they go to get one. The 
>>> absolutely worst buffets are those where you build your own sandwich.
>>> Those I always
>> ask for help.
>>>
>>> The bottom line, If you need help, or if it will make you feel more 
>>> confident about what you're doing, get it. There are very few 
>>> situations where you need to use a buffet to send a message.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Cramer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 11:46 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Handling a big buffet
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this isn't a dumb question.
>>>
>>> I'd like to know from other blind people, especially those who are 
>>> totally blind, how they handle big buffet type of restaurants when 
>>> they're not with sighted people.  I'd like to be able to go to a 
>>> couple of places that are close to where I live but don't really 
>>> know how
>> to best handle them.
>>>
>>> How much do you do independently and how much do you ask of the wait
>> staff?
>>> How do I best know what's on the buffet line and how do I best get 
>>> it on my plate without slowing others down?  Is it easier for the 
>>> wait staff to get my food and carry it for me or is that something I 
>>> need to do
>> as well?
>>>
>>> This place has wonderful food and I'd like to go this weekend but 
>>> haven't done it without sighted family who isn't around right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All tips are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
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