[Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

Wed Dec 9 18:02:10 UTC 2015

How long do these events last?  Could you ask for an event schedule and plan 
your outings around that?  For me, that wouldn't be ideal, but it could 
perhaps help me plan, which always reduces my stress.

There are electronic gadgets, like the mini guide, that will vibrate to 
indicate things in front of you.  I know a deaf blind lady who used one of 
these with some success.  I have not personally, and honestly it would 
really freak me out to rely on an electronic gizmo like that to cross a 
street.

So the only things I can come up with are:
*ask for sighted help, from friends/family/other pedestrians
*plan your trips on non event days/times
*make a detour that will take you out of range of the event, so you can hear 
better
*some sort of gadget or even Facetime
*ask for accessible pedestrian signals or better sound dampening 
infrastructure from the city

It really sounds like a  unpleasant situation, no pun intended.  I do hope 
you can find a work around that is acceptable to you.
Julie
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-----Original Message----- 
From: bettyJo via blindtlk
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:18 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: bettyJo ; Mike Freeman
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud 
circumstances

Hi Mike and all,

I must not have explained this well.

I need to travel past these loud outdoor events to go to the post office for 
my mail, to go to my bank, assorted stores, resturants or simply for 
exercise.

I don't want or expect concert promoters to alter their procedures I simply 
want to safely cross the unregulated street in order to complete my regular 
daily errands.

BettyJo

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On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mike Freeman via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:

You probably don't want to hear this, but ...

There is little likelihood, in my opinion, that the city will take action 
because too many people like loud concerts. Given this, the simplest 
solution is to take a sighted person to the concert with you -- at least to 
get there and leave afterward.

Mike Freeman
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane 
Vlasoff via blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:14 PM
To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Diane Vlasoff
Subject: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

Hi all!
The small city I live in has an outdoor music venue which provides live 
entertainment for 17 events per year.  The contract is being reviewed by the 
city at this time.

While I appreciate the opportunity for local live entertainment, I find that 
the amplified music is often broadcast at such a high volume that it 
significantly or completely masks the sound of cross traffic at 3 critical 
unregulated street crossings.

I intend to ask the city to implement appropriate safety measures at these 3 
crosswalks during the outdoor events.  While I believe that the best 
solution is to install a signal with a vibro tactile output at each of the 
three crosswalks in question in reality I do not see the city locating 
funding for such an expensive solution.

So my question is…

How would you expect a crossing guard or police officer to make contact with 
a visually impaired pedestrian in such an excessively loud situation?

The only thing I can come up with is for them to tap me on the shoulder or 
something.  But I have to say that would probably freak me out since I have 
no functional vision.  Also since I travel with a guide dog I am concerned 
with someone essentially grabbing me while my dog is working.

Additionally, how does a visually impaired person verify that someone 
claiming to be a police officer or crossing guard is actually what they 
claim to be?

It sounds like I have trust issues and there is a distinct possibility that 
I do.

Nevertheless I welcome suggestions.  What solutions have you seen 
implemented in similar circumstances?  How effective have you found them to 
be?

Thank you for your time and recommendations.

BettyJo

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