[Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

[Diane Vlasoff]

On 12/9/15, Judy Jones via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> You have probably already thought of this, but are there alternate routes
> you can take?
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bettyJo via blindtlk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 10:18 AM
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> Cc: bettyJo ; Mike Freeman
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud
> circumstances
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> Hi Mike and all,
>
> I must not have explained this well.
>
> I need to travel past these loud outdoor events to go to the post office for
> my mail, to go to my bank, assorted stores, resturants or simply for
> exercise.
>
> I don't want or expect concert promoters to alter their procedures I simply
> want to safely cross the unregulated street in order to complete my regular
> daily errands.
>
> BettyJo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mike Freeman via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> You probably don't want to hear this, but ...
>
> There is little likelihood, in my opinion, that the city will take action
> because too many people like loud concerts. Given this, the simplest
> solution is to take a sighted person to the concert with you -- at least to
> get there and leave afterward.
>
> Mike Freeman
> s
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane
> Vlasoff via blindtlk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:14 PM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Diane Vlasoff
> Subject: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances
>
> Hi all!
> The small city I live in has an outdoor music venue which provides live
> entertainment for 17 events per year.  The contract is being reviewed by the
> city at this time.
>
> While I appreciate the opportunity for local live entertainment, I find that
> the amplified music is often broadcast at such a high volume that it
> significantly or completely masks the sound of cross traffic at 3 critical
> unregulated street crossings.
>
> I intend to ask the city to implement appropriate safety measures at these 3
> crosswalks during the outdoor events.  While I believe that the best
> solution is to install a signal with a vibro tactile output at each of the
> three crosswalks in question in reality I do not see the city locating
> funding for such an expensive solution.
>
> So my question is…
>
> How would you expect a crossing guard or police officer to make contact with
> a visually impaired pedestrian in such an excessively loud situation?
>
> The only thing I can come up with is for them to tap me on the shoulder or
> something.  But I have to say that would probably freak me out since I have
> no functional vision.  Also since I travel with a guide dog I am concerned
> with someone essentially grabbing me while my dog is working.
>
> Additionally, how does a visually impaired person verify that someone
> claiming to be a police officer or crossing guard is actually what they
> claim to be?
>
> It sounds like I have trust issues and there is a distinct possibility that
> I do.
>
> Nevertheless I welcome suggestions.  What solutions have you seen
> implemented in similar circumstances?  How effective have you found them to
> be?
>
> Thank you for your time and recommendations.
>
>
> BettyJo
>
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Hi Judy and Steve,

Thank you for your thoughts and insights!

The events at our Bowl have varied from simply loud to ridiculously
loud.  When I say ridiculously loud you would have to speak loudly or
even yell directly into someone’s ear to be heard just as if you were
in the front row of a rock concert.

I have in the past played Russian Rolette with my life when crossing
the streets near the Bowl but I seem to have developed a little more
common sense and won’t do that anymore.

So the typical techniques of speaking to or even locating the
existence of a sighted person from whom to request help would be
impossible for me as I have only a little light sensitivity.

I think the choice of going up a couple of streets to walk along the
highway will be my best option but still not an especially good one.
The side of the street with a sidewalk is in terrible repair and has a
very strange uncontrolled intersection.    Here I will be the only
pedestrian and will not have the opportunity to ask anyone for help.
We have no other streets with sidewalks from which to choose.  (That
is why I persist in walking along our bike/equestrian trail- it’s
usually the safest and highly traveled)

I wonder how someone who is deaf/blind crosses streets.  For in this
circumstance I am virtually blind and deaf.

Thanks again! Smiley face
BettyJo