[Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

[bettyJo]

hi Bob,

The phone number is an idea I will pass on to the planning committee.  I think it has merit.  Also having crossing guards there is a good idea since our community  has a large population of retirees and snowbirds.   Dian 4

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On Dec 10, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bob Hachey via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Hi Diane,
This is a toughy. It seems to me that providing crossing guards during concerts is the best solution short of vibro-tactile APS. And, the APS may not be a good solution given that they only tell you the walk light is on, they don't tell you if someone is running that light and you wouldn't hear the light runner over the loud music. AS a male almost six feet tall and around 200 pounds, I am not likely to be intimidated by a tap on the shoulder but I surely can see how women would find that tap on the shoulder rather frightening. 
Perhaps you could be given the cell phone number of the crossing guard on duty and could then make first contact?
Bob Hachey 
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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman via blindtlk
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

You probably don't want to hear this, but ...

There is little likelihood, in my opinion, that the city will take action because too many people like loud concerts. Given this, the simplest solution is to take a sighted person to the concert with you -- at least to get there and leave afterward.

Mike Freeman
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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane Vlasoff via blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:14 PM
To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
Cc: Diane Vlasoff
Subject: [Blindtlk] crossing streets during excessivly loud circumstances

Hi all!
The small city I live in has an outdoor music venue which provides live entertainment for 17 events per year.  The contract is being reviewed by the city at this time.

While I appreciate the opportunity for local live entertainment, I find that the amplified music is often broadcast at such a high volume that it significantly or completely masks the sound of cross traffic at 3 critical unregulated street crossings.

I intend to ask the city to implement appropriate safety measures at these 3 crosswalks during the outdoor events.  While I believe that the best solution is to install a signal with a vibro tactile output at each of the three crosswalks in question in reality I do not see the city locating funding for such an expensive solution.

So my question is…

How would you expect a crossing guard or police officer to make contact with a visually impaired pedestrian in such an excessively loud situation?

The only thing I can come up with is for them to tap me on the shoulder or something.  But I have to say that would probably freak me out since I have no functional vision.  Also since I travel with a guide dog I am concerned with someone essentially grabbing me while my dog is working.

Additionally, how does a visually impaired person verify that someone claiming to be a police officer or crossing guard is actually what they claim to be?

It sounds like I have trust issues and there is a distinct possibility that I do.

Nevertheless I welcome suggestions.  What solutions have you seen implemented in similar circumstances?  How effective have you found them to be?

Thank you for your time and recommendations.


BettyJo

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