[Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist

Tue Jan 13 13:52:42 UTC 2015

Yes, but we have dedicated lists to help as well. 

It pertains to guide dogs yes, and that you wanted advice from Guide Dog
Users, a lot of them are not on this list, they are more on the NAGDU list,
I was giving you all the options so you can either e-mail our National
President or possibly your state president of NAGDU, etc.

Just trying to be helpful to you. That is what we try to do. I never said it
wasn't suitable for this talk list.

Just giving advise that help in the situation.

Thank you.

Cheryl

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:clgilland07 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:45 AM
To: Cheryl Echevarria; Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist

Cheryl,

I'm sorry.  I've gotten lots of responses off list stating that this
question wasn't very well suited for this list.  Now, I'm hearing you say it
would a been suited elseware.  I thought that this list was designed for
talk of blind issues in general.

I'm sorry.  I won't post anything again like this.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl Echevarria via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Mark Tardif'" <markspark at roadrunner.com>; "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" 
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist

> May I suggest if a person has this particular question, that they contact
> NAGDU talk list, or we a lot of our NFB state affiliates we know have 
> NAGDU
> Chapters. Like here in NY. We have NYAGDU, NY Chapter of the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users.
>
> Or you can reach out to the President of NAGDU. Mr. Marion Gwizdala,
> president at nagdu.org
>
> We can recommend and advise on these issues and others.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria, Board Member
> NYAGDU
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark 
> Tardif
> via blindtlk
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 6:55 PM
> To: Szostak, Christine; Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>
> I think I owe everyone an apology here.  I do think there are advantages 
> to
> the cane and I would imagine to working with the dog guide as well.  But
> obviously there are a lot of people who have no trouble at all going to 
> the
> dentist with their dog guides, so I certainly stand corrected in the
> previous message I sent earlier today.  I do apologize.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Szostak, Christine via blindtlk
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:31 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>
> Hi All,
>  I had to almost laugh when reading this as I just returned from the
> dentist with my guide and this was the first message I read.
>  I put my guide dog right next to the chair and have always done so with 
> no
> problems at all. If the dog freaks out a little over any of the sounds, I
> just place my hand gently on his back or head and say good boy and he 
> calms
> right down. Usually he  falls asleep and the dental staff every place I 
> have
> taken my guide loves having him and never seems to have issues with him
> being at all in the way. Usually, I make sure he is on the side opposite
> from the main person doing the work (e.g., if the dentist is working on 
> me,
> than he goes on the side of the assistant since that person usually mainly
> has jobs like getting me wet:)) though I always ask the dental staff which
> side they prefer that I place him on and to let me know if he is getting 
> in
> their way.
> Happy Monday!
> Chris (and a dog who was just glad it was not himself in the dentist's
> chair:))
> ________________________________________
> From: blindtlk [blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland via blindtlk [blindtlk at nfbnet.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:59 AM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>
> Guys,
>
> This may seem like a somewhat off-the-wall question, but I got to thinking
> this morning...  Tomorrow, I have a dental appointment.  Now, I myself am 
> a
> cane user, and don't have a dog.  Never have.  I'd love to get one one of
> these days, but that's another topic entirely.  LOL!  Anyway, as most of 
> you
> probably know, a dentist office in general would be fine for a service
> animal, like a guide dog, but once they call you back for your 
> appointment,
> most of you probably know that for one thing, those rooms are pretty small
> as is.  Now, of corse, if you're at a place like I was as a kid where 
> there
> is no privacy, and you're out in the bare butt openning with all other
> children, then that's another story, but again, that's a topic for another
> day.  But generally speaking, most of the time, 95 percent the time, those
> rooms are going to be not only quite little, but quite narrow as well.
> Then, you put the dental chair in there, plus the cart with the tray of 
> tool
> instruments, plus usually a desk with a computer, then you take the 
> dentist
> and his/her assistant dental hygienist, it's going to get super super
> crouded!  This said, you can't exactly put the dog under the chair, as for
> one, the chair moves, which if not careful could hurt the dog, 2, if 
> you're
> getting novicayne, and are anything like me, you're gonna yelp pretty loud
> when they stick ya, which of corse would alarm the dog... Good? Fido, 
> nice?
> Fido... LOL!  Just kidding.
> But seriously, my point being, where the heck do you all  stash the dog 
> when
> in the back room?  OK, if it was a regular family physician appointment,
> then yeah, ok, that wouldn't be an issue.  Just lie the dog down out of 
> your
> way and the doctor's way, as most examining rooms are big enough to do 
> that,
> but not so much a dentistry room.  Do you all just leave the dog out in 
> the
> waiting room?  Surely, if you're going by yourself, you don't do that. 
> Uh,
> skeuze me, sir?  uh, like, I'm blind and am going back in the back, will 
> you
> watch ma dog?  Um... Yeah... me thinks not.
>
>
>
> So, what do you all normally do?  I know there are certain times you just
> can't! take the dog, much as you'd probably like to.  Is this one of those
> times?
>
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
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