[Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist

Tue Jan 13 20:23:12 UTC 2015

I too think she meant well.  I was just concerned that I'd done something 
wrong by posting a question here on list like that.

Chris.

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From: "Ericka Short via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Cheryl Echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing 
List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist

>I know you meant well Cheryl. I think the word choices do sound very rude 
>and unwelcoming. I just reread your response. Not criticizing. We all do 
>the stuff.
>
> Ericka
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 13, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Cheryl Echevarria via blindtlk 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> May I suggest if a person has this particular question, that they contact
>> NAGDU talk list, or we a lot of our NFB state affiliates we know have 
>> NAGDU
>> Chapters. Like here in NY. We have NYAGDU, NY Chapter of the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users.
>>
>> Or you can reach out to the President of NAGDU. Mr. Marion Gwizdala,
>> president at nagdu.org
>>
>> We can recommend and advise on these issues and others.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria, Board Member
>> NYAGDU
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark 
>> Tardif
>> via blindtlk
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 6:55 PM
>> To: Szostak, Christine; Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>>
>> I think I owe everyone an apology here.  I do think there are advantages 
>> to
>> the cane and I would imagine to working with the dog guide as well.  But
>> obviously there are a lot of people who have no trouble at all going to 
>> the
>> dentist with their dog guides, so I certainly stand corrected in the
>> previous message I sent earlier today.  I do apologize.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Szostak, Christine via blindtlk
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 5:31 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>>
>> Hi All,
>>  I had to almost laugh when reading this as I just returned from the
>> dentist with my guide and this was the first message I read.
>>  I put my guide dog right next to the chair and have always done so with 
>> no
>> problems at all. If the dog freaks out a little over any of the sounds, I
>> just place my hand gently on his back or head and say good boy and he 
>> calms
>> right down. Usually he  falls asleep and the dental staff every place I 
>> have
>> taken my guide loves having him and never seems to have issues with him
>> being at all in the way. Usually, I make sure he is on the side opposite
>> from the main person doing the work (e.g., if the dentist is working on 
>> me,
>> than he goes on the side of the assistant since that person usually 
>> mainly
>> has jobs like getting me wet:)) though I always ask the dental staff 
>> which
>> side they prefer that I place him on and to let me know if he is getting 
>> in
>> their way.
>> Happy Monday!
>> Chris (and a dog who was just glad it was not himself in the dentist's
>> chair:))
>> ________________________________________
>> From: blindtlk [blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of 
>> Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland via blindtlk [blindtlk at nfbnet.org]
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:59 AM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Guide dogs and the Dentist
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> This may seem like a somewhat off-the-wall question, but I got to 
>> thinking
>> this morning...  Tomorrow, I have a dental appointment.  Now, I myself am 
>> a
>> cane user, and don't have a dog.  Never have.  I'd love to get one one of
>> these days, but that's another topic entirely.  LOL!  Anyway, as most of 
>> you
>> probably know, a dentist office in general would be fine for a service
>> animal, like a guide dog, but once they call you back for your 
>> appointment,
>> most of you probably know that for one thing, those rooms are pretty 
>> small
>> as is.  Now, of corse, if you're at a place like I was as a kid where 
>> there
>> is no privacy, and you're out in the bare butt openning with all other
>> children, then that's another story, but again, that's a topic for 
>> another
>> day.  But generally speaking, most of the time, 95 percent the time, 
>> those
>> rooms are going to be not only quite little, but quite narrow as well.
>> Then, you put the dental chair in there, plus the cart with the tray of 
>> tool
>> instruments, plus usually a desk with a computer, then you take the 
>> dentist
>> and his/her assistant dental hygienist, it's going to get super super
>> crouded!  This said, you can't exactly put the dog under the chair, as 
>> for
>> one, the chair moves, which if not careful could hurt the dog, 2, if 
>> you're
>> getting novicayne, and are anything like me, you're gonna yelp pretty 
>> loud
>> when they stick ya, which of corse would alarm the dog... Good? Fido, 
>> nice?
>> Fido... LOL!  Just kidding.
>> But seriously, my point being, where the heck do you all  stash the dog 
>> when
>> in the back room?  OK, if it was a regular family physician appointment,
>> then yeah, ok, that wouldn't be an issue.  Just lie the dog down out of 
>> your
>> way and the doctor's way, as most examining rooms are big enough to do 
>> that,
>> but not so much a dentistry room.  Do you all just leave the dog out in 
>> the
>> waiting room?  Surely, if you're going by yourself, you don't do that. 
>> Uh,
>> skeuze me, sir?  uh, like, I'm blind and am going back in the back, will 
>> you
>> watch ma dog?  Um... Yeah... me thinks not.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, what do you all normally do?  I know there are certain times you just
>> can't! take the dog, much as you'd probably like to.  Is this one of 
>> those
>> times?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
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