[Blindtlk] A Horrible Experience at Kmart

Bryan Schulz b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 26 21:49:40 UTC 2016


Hi,

When the price of a dewalt drill was $100 less than the same model at home
depot, nobody is going to make me feel bad about shopping from my couch!
Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
Mihalakis via blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Cc: Carly Mihalakis
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A Horrible Experience at Kmart

Good morning, everyone,

	This is precisely why On-line shopping and such 
doesn't appeal to me personally. Why not  do a 
little traveling, persuing the good things life 
sometimes offers, not to mention  having an 
opportunity to model for people how blind folks 
find their life experiences and in fact, do the 
same things as everybody else but perhaps a little differently.
CarFrom: blindtlk 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Echevarria via blindtlk Sent: Thursday, 
July 16, 2015 2:26 PM To: 'Blind Talk Mailing 
List' Cc: Cheryl Echevarria Subject: Re: 
[Blindtlk] A Horrible Experience at Kmart I would 
like to say, becoming hermits and not getting out 
of the house and traveling? As stated early live 
the life you want, and I am totally for those who 
want to not go shopping without other people with 
you, but when you do go shopping. on in 
restaurants, etc. That we show independence. 
Sitting home doesn't give that. I also order 
online, but remember staying home the outside 
world doesn't learn about blind people. Things 
like the KNFB Reader which is now an app on your 
sell phone can help with this for shopping. It 
can tell you want you are looking at or at least 
read a code, and there are exciting other 
inventions on the horizon. Google Glass, which we 
tried at the NFB Travel & Tourism, and other 
divisions at convention. Michael Hingson was part 
of the group. Many things new and updated  at 
convention. -----Original Message----- From: 
blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Charlotte via blindtlk Sent: Thursday, 
July 16, 2015 2:30 PM To: Blind Talk Mailing List 
Cc: Charlotte Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A Horrible 
Experience at Kmart Hi. Our paratransit is pretty 
much 24/7 so I would be okay with coming at a 
time that was less busy. It was 2 hours when the 
manager came in, not 4. We were planning to stay 
for 3. I asked the cashier when we started 
shopping if that was acceptable and he said it 
was. I've had to change employees before and was 
totally okay with that. One time I had to wait 20 
minutes for another employee to come off break 
and was okay with that because I knew about it 
ahead of time. I am very willing to work with 
people if they are willing to work with me. I 
know I take a bit longer because of my mobility 
issues and am totally okay with rotating 
employees or waiting 20 minutes or so for them to 
get someone else. On 7/16/2015 1:01 PM, Judy 
Jones via blindtlk wrote: > My concern about 
calling in ahead of time, although I understand 
why it was done, is that, if you start them 
thinking you need special arrangements/help, then 
in future they may get the idea to ask you to 
only shop certain times when they CAN offer the 
time and attention you are asking for ahead of 
time.  You might want to go during a time you can 
use your paratransit, but the store may then say, 
well, we don't have the personnel or scheduling 
to be able to accommodate you, you need to come 
at such-and-such time. > > In other words, if you 
start asking for special ahead of time help, they 
could start putting limits.  They shouldn't but 
that may get them thinking in that direction. > > 
A long time ago, when I went into the Winn-Dixie 
late at night to shop, I was told to come back 
during the day when there was more staff to offer 
customer assistance. > > I told them that I 
worked and commuted, and had to come when was 
convenient for me.  With that explanation, I was 
promptly offered customer assistance, and have 
never had a problem since. > > Also, with 
employees, they are needed in certain departments 
doing certain tasks, and the shift's schedules 
are made accordingly.  To take four hours to shop 
with one employee can upset the scheduling and 
possibly disrupt that employee's lunch break.  It 
might be good to check with your shopper to make 
sure the time frame will work with them.  A 
solution is to work with one shopper for a while, 
then trade to another if the first employee needs 
to take his break or clock out.  As I understand 
it, they are strict with their employees and 
clocked time, something we as customers don't 
usually have to think about, but we should be 
considerate of those factors. > > Judy > > 
-----Original Message----- > From: blindtlk 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
Of > Charlotte via blindtlk > Sent: Thursday, 
July 16, 2015 11:46 AM > To: Blind Talk Mailing 
List > Cc: Charlotte > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A 
Horrible Experience at Kmart > > That definitely 
had an impact on it for sure. Also, there were 2 
of us, both totally blind and one in a 
wheelchair. That added onto the time. > That's 
the main reason I called ahead and told 
them. > > > On 7/16/2015 7:47 AM, justin williams 
via blindtlk wrote: >> Yeah, not having the 
knowledgeable employee is what may have caused it 
to be so time consuming. >> >> >> -----Original 
Message----- >> From: blindtlk 
[mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
Of >> Charlotte via blindtlk >> Sent: Thursday, 
July 16, 2015 8:46 AM >> To: Blind Talk Mailing 
List >> Cc: Charlotte >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] 
A Horrible Experience at Kmart >> >> It was 2 
hours when he banged on the door and there were 2 
of us and we were looking for several items that 
took a long time to find. Also, if they'd given 
us a female it would've went a lot quicker. Also, 
if that were going to be a problem, we could've 
been notified of that when we, twice, called 
ahead. >> >> >> On 7/16/2015 2:16 AM, Paul Wick 
via blindtlk wrote: >>> No offense meant, but I 
would never tie up customer service for 3 1/2 
hours. but that doesn't eexcuse his rather 
narrowminded behavior. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Sent 
from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 8:02 
PM, Charlotte via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> 
wrote: >>>> >>>> A few days ago my best friend 
and I were talking about the good deals she got 
while at Kmart with another friend of hers. They 
had sales on swimsuits, clothing, shoes, etc. and 
I was looking to purchase some of these same 
articles. She said she'd like to go back as well 
so we planned a trip for Friday, July 3, to go to 
Kmart on paratransit to get the items we wanted. 
I told her I'd call ahead the next day and let 
them know we were coming and that we would be 
there quite a while as we were two blind women, 
one in a wheelchair, looking for clothing and 
accessories. The next day I called to let them 
know. I spoke to the manager on duty. He assured 
me it was no problem. I didn't feel very 
satisfied with his brush-off quick response and 
told my husband about it. He then called again 
and spoke to a customer service lead. This time 
he, too, was assured that it would be no problem. 
He gave the times we'd be there and she said 
she'd get it taken care of and leave a note at 
the service desk so they could get someone in 
ladies' clothing or a similar department to help 
us. We again told her the length of time we were 
looking at and that there would be two of us. We 
arrived at Kmart Friday and I went to the service 
desk. I again said I had called ahead and spoken 
to two people and told them we were coming and 
that my friend and I would need help shopping. 
Not only were my two previous calls ignored, but 
we were given a male cashier who knew nothing 
about clothing. He, as an employee and a person, 
was fantastic. But I did not feel the most 
comfortable shopping for intimate apparel with a 
male not related to me. We proceeded to begin 
shopping and purchased some shoes, swimsuit, and 
were looking at pants. We had been shopping for 
about 2 hours. My friend and I were in the 
women's fitting room trying on clothing. All of a 
sudden there is a loud bang on the door. In a 
raised, scathing tone, the general manager of the 
store inquires how much longer we intend on tying 
his employee up. I again explained that we had 
called twice in advance and that I had indeed 
spoken to a manager on duty. I explained this in 
a calm tone, only letting a bit of my growing 
frustration show. Dan, the store manager, then 
proceeds to publicly, loudly berate me in front 
of the other customers and employees and tell me 
how unappreciative and ungrateful I am. He said I 
had tied up an employee for 3 or 4 hours. We had 
begun shopping at 11 and it was just after 1 when 
the incident occured. He said that from now on 
they are putting a 30 minute maximum on any 
assistance because of my extreme attitude. I 
tried to reason with him as did my friend and say 
we were not being extreme. We'd tried to do the 
responsible thing and if we'd come separate 
they'd have had two employees tied up. It really 
hurt my feelings and upset me very much to be 
publicly humiliated and berated in front of the 
other customers and employees, and while I was 
trying on clothes in the women's fitting room. I 
came out of the room in tears. The gentleman 
helping us was appalled. He profusely apologized 
for his manager's rude behavior and said if he 
were us he'd just put everything back and walk 
out. I said I'd love to do that but with my 
transportation limitations, that wasn't an option 
for me. We did get checked out and went to wait 
for our ride. When I got home, I immediately 
called the corporate complaint department. The 
gentleman who took my call was also appalled by 
the classless behavior of the manager. I am still 
waiting to hear the resolution of this complaint. 
I will never set foot back in that store again 
unless that manager is no longer working there or 
at any store. He is rude, unprofessional, and 
according to the employee helping us, he treats 
his employees the same way. I've been verbally 
abused before and that was exactly what this 
experience reminded me of. My friend said he was 
accusing us of having an extreme attitude, when 
he was actually the one acting extreme. I would 
not recommend any person with a disability to go 
to Kmart. You will be treated as less than human 
and given the complete brush-off. If you go to 
the store on Lake St. Dan will impose a 30 minute 
maximum on your shopping time. This is not legal 
by ADA standards. He feels that we are taking 
advantage of a system and so I feel that he 
doesn't want us there or our business. Let Dan, 
the Kmart manager know what you think of what you 
just read. I have an update to this story. It is 
now July 15, and I still have not heard any word 
from corporate of any kind. I called twice and 
both times was told someone would get back in 
touch with me promptly. This has not happened. 
Apparently Sears and Kmart do not care about 
whether or not their customers are treated in a 
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