[Blindtlk] Keeping 20/20 Pens Available - Action Needed

Mon Mar 21 22:49:45 UTC 2016

Hello Ellen,
I’ not sure if you saw my previous e-mail, as I was using my phone and I might not have replied all. Anyway, there are pens that are very similar to 20/20 pens, and they are called vis a vis. They were used for overhead projectors back wen they were popular, but they work just like 20/20 pens. In fact, I would use the 20/20 pens and vis a vis respectively, and found no difference except the name. They are the same tip, no smell, and no bleeding through the paper. You should be fine with them.

Thanks,
Christine
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Ringlein, Ellen via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> A number of different places sell 20/20 pens. But once they have sold out of their inventory, they will have to identify another pen with similar characteristics to sell, as the manufacturer has discontinued making the 20/20 pens. It is certainly worth contacting the manufacturer of 20/20 pens via phone or email to let them know that there is a market for these pens. Maybe they will reconsider their decision. I don't know whether such contacts will make an impact, but if people do nothing than we know for sure that the pens will remain discontinued.
> 
> Here is the contact information again.
> 
> Toll free - 1-800-346-3278
> Email - writingconsumercare at newellco.com
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Ellen Ringlein
> Manager, Independence Market
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street
> Baltimore, MD 21230
> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2421
> Fax: (410) 685-2340
> Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:ERinglein at nfb.org"ERinglein at nfb.org
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka via blindtlk
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 9:04 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Ericka
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Keeping 20/20 Pens Available - Action Needed
> 
> L S &  S sells them I think. There's a few places here in Wisconsin that ordered them and sell two locals coming in for supplies at their store.
> 
> Ericka Short
> "What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."
> 
> from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 4:52 PM, justin williams via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> So, how do we help?
>> And, where else can you guys get 20 20 pens?
>> Justin
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Ericka via blindtlk
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 4:56 PM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Keeping 20/20 Pens Available - Action Needed
>> 
>> Those of us with low vision use these 20/20 pens all the time. They 
>> don't bleed through paper but are a no contrast and wide know if 
>> letters that we can read them. We can write out checks, sign checks, right grocery list etc.
>> I'm never without one and I use it to fill out my day planner and my 
>> Address book too.
>> 
>> Ericka Short
>> "What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."
>> 
>> from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Sami Osborne via blindtlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ellen,
>>> 
>>> Um...  I'm a little confused about something.  You stated that "many 
>>> blind
>> people use this pen." What would someone who is totally blind do with 
>> a pen, except for signing our signatures? And, why would people who 
>> are blind use a pen from this particular company?
>>> 
>>> I don't want to offend you or anything, but I'm just confused about 
>>> that
>> part of your email.
>>> 
>>> Hope you can clarify, enjoy your weekend and happy late St.  
>>> Patrick's day,
>>> 
>>> Sami
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ringlein, Ellen via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 18 
>>> Mar 2016 13:57:14 +0000
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Keeping 20/20 Pens Available - Action Needed
>>> 
>>> Dear Federationists,
>>> 
>>> Newell Co., the company that makes 20/20 pens has decided to 
>>> discontinue
>> their manufacture.
>>> 
>>> Many blind people rely on this pen in their everyday lives.  If 
>>> enough
>> people contact the manufacturer, they may perhaps reverse their decision.
>>> 
>>> Please phone or email them to express your concern.
>>> 
>>> Toll free - 1-800-346-3278
>>> Email - writingconsumercare at newellco.com
>>> 
>>> If newell Co opts to stand by their decision, the NFB Independence 
>>> Market
>> will do what we can to identify a suitable substitute.
>>> 
>>> Cordially,
>>> 
>>> Ellen Ringlein
>>> Manager, Independence Market
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2421
>>> Fax: (410) 685-2340
>>> Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:ERinglein at nfb.org"ERinglein at nfb.org
>>> 
>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future.  Every day we raise 
>> the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create 
>> obstacles between blind people and our dreams.  You can live the life 
>> you want; blindness is not what holds you back.
>>> 
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