[Blindtlk] Inaccessible sites

[Jude DaShiell]

We have a current situation in Linux with both thunderbird and firefox 
being mostly inaccessible as a result of security updates to both of 
these packages.  Firefox is a web browser and wouldn't even be effected 
by web accessibility classes and thunderbird is an email and usenet news 
reader also not covered by web accessibility.  Operating system 
accessibility of course has to come before software accessibility and 
software accessibility has to come before web accessibility.  Without an 
accessible operating system you don't get to use the software that runs 
on that operating system and without an accessible operating operating 
system and accessible software that runs on it you don't ever even get 
to the web whether the web is accessible or isn't accessible.

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Ericka via blindtlk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:20:39
> From: Ericka via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Inaccessible sites
> 
> I also think that we should encourage computer science educators to offer a class in web accessibility or at least more than a passing day of "you might need to do this" accessibility education for the students. Start from the bottom and they'll be aware when they get to the top!
>
> Ericka Short
> from my iPhone 6+
>
>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 6:04 AM, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> It is so frustrating when you find out that someone is putting
>> information on their site about blindness, blind people or anything
>> you would like to read, but when you click the link, most of these
>> sites are not accessible. I am sure that there are people and places
>> that offer help to others for doing this, but I feel that the general
>> public and even web developers need greater awareness and support and
>> even pointing out that their site is not accessible. So as blind
>> people, maybe we can each do more and keep encouraging others to test
>> a site or give whatever help they can to whoever is interested to
>> write or talk about us. Hope we can continue talking about this in the
>> comments and put someideas out, so that we can keep bringing the issue
>> forward, trying to work at it and keep remembering that something
>> really needs to be done about this and if we don't take the main role
>> as blind people, this process may go way slower and more frustrating
>> for us. The idea number one I am putting here is that each of us who
>> gets featured in a newspaper, TV or radio station or elsewhere, could
>> check their website and if it is not accessible and not easy to get
>> the contact info, to try and point this out to the person who they
>> come in contact with that wants their story. If they realize that
>> sites indeed need to become accessible, because many blind people are
>> using computers with screen readers and many blind friends, relatives
>> and others may see it by word of mouth or from a site or a group or
>> page, then it helps them get more visitors and stories and a great
>> promise that we would indeed keep appreciating their efforts and maybe
>> even feature them and what they do in some of our magazines and pages,
>> which would help them keep learning about us further if they indeed
>> start to follow them.
>>
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