[Blindtlk] Grade 3 braille

Thu Jun 22 16:31:04 UTC 2017

I learned Grade 3 braille a while back and what anyone will have the 
most difficulty with in Grade 3 Braille is a proper understanding and 
proper use of the spacing rules.  The problem with Grade 3 Braille is it 
is too little understood in the blind community and too little used.  If 
Grade 3 Braille gets more use, I predict discussions about spacing rules 
will materialize and maybe even studies of many Grade 3 Braille users 
will happen that end up improving the spacing rules from where they are 
at now.  A statistical way to do this would be to get more than 32 
participants in a study and provide each with the same sample text. 
Then ask all of them to translate and transcribe that text into Grade 2 
Braille and collect the transcriptions and see from the transcriptions 
what most of the sample understood the text to contain.  The next 
question to be answered is did most of the sample correctly understand 
the spacing rules at issue or not.  If not, then proper targeting can be 
done to specific problem rules and more than one text will be needed and 
more than one group of 32 transcribers will be needed to do this study 
properly.
I made the mistake of taking my Grade 3 Braille notes to computer 
training and those notes were stolen too.  I let the wrong person 
examine them and never got them returned.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, Kishia Mason via blindtlk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 11:25:27
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> I would be interested in it as well.
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>>   1. Audio book production questions (Sarah Harris)
>>   2. Re: Audio book production questions (Hyde, David W. (ESC))
>>   3. Grade 3 Braille (Kristen)
>>   4. Re: Grade 3 Braille (Cory McMahon)
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>> From: Sarah Harris <sarahandfamily04 at gmail.com>
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>>   Good afternoon. I have self-published the first five books of a series I'm writing and would like to make them available as audio books. What recording software works well with Jaws? Can I edit things such as when pages turn, which takes some time? What microphone and headphones would work? Thank you.        Sarah
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>> Hi Sarah. The first thing I would suggest is that you talk with your regional library for the blind. Many states already have programs to record books in their state.
>> Secondly, you may be an absolutely excellent reader. You may have a great deal of experience reading aloud. Not all writers do. One of the worst I remember is William F. Buckley reading one of his books.
>> To answer the question about software, I am not sure. I do know, however, that one of the problems home recordings have always had is the introduction of noise from uncontrollable sources. I recall with some fondness the barking dog, the cat who wanted to be fed, and the emergency vehicles going by on the street. Today, you could probably cut that noise using editing software, but it would be easier not to have it at all.
>> When you approach your library, you should probably include any good reviews your books have had.
>> Good luck.
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>> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:05:23 -0500
>> From: Kristen <kskristen at gmail.com>
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>> Hi, all-
>>
>> I have been attempting to memorize Grade 3 Braille and am
>> wondering if anyone would be interested in studying it together.
>> A great resource is available on BARD called "Key to Grade
>> Three," which breaks content down into sections with
>> corresponding rules. If there is any interest, I would be happy
>> to send practice sentences back and forth via e-mailed BRF files,
>> discuss concepts, etc. individually or form a group. Please reply
>> if this is something you would like to learn, as well!
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>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Kristen
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>> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:17:25 -0500
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>> I would be interest in learning. Sounds fun.
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>> Sincerely,
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>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Grade 3 Braille
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>> Hi, all-
>>
>> I have been attempting to memorize Grade 3 Braille and am wondering if
>> anyone would be interested in studying it together.
>> A great resource is available on BARD called "Key to Grade Three," which
>> breaks content down into sections with corresponding rules. If there is any
>> interest, I would be happy to send practice sentences back and forth via
>> e-mailed BRF files, discuss concepts, etc. individually or form a group.
>> Please reply if this is something you would like to learn, as well!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Kristen
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>> Subject: [Blindtlk] This week on Eyes On Success: Research On Low
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