[Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed

[Steve Jacobson]

Laz and all,

There are a number of things I am tempted to write but they would be off
topic.  As I read the original post, we want to try to get an idea of who,
among blind people, are affected by changes to this program.  Regardless of
what eventually happens, blind individuals may need some kind of help to
deal with whatever is the outcome.  Nothing in the original note says
whether President Obama should have instituted this program, whether or not
it should go to Congress, or what Congress should do.  What should happen
with this program is a separate issue from the expressed need to collect
information.  I do not have inside information as to the details on what
sort of help we might offer, but I am somewhat surprised at the reaction
some have expressed given that I don't see any position taken on the program
itself.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed

We deplaned in the US in 1966 and I was six years old. Of course I
didn't speak English then but someone who is two or three years old
should have some language ability. I went to school like one is
supposed to and learned English as well as the required subjects in
any public school. I learned Spanish up to a 2nd grade level at a
Catholic church.

There was no bribing of local officials involved but it did cost my
half brother a US citizen, several thousand dollars to claim us
through uS immigration. With inflation that would add up to somewhere
in the neighborhood of tens of thousands of dollars in today's
economy.

We had to give up a house, a store, and an apartment plus anything we
couldn't carry on our backs, in other words the clothes we were
wearing and we had to empty out our pockets before being allowed on
the plane.

Laz

On 9/15/17, Ericka via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Laz, I have a friend who came when she was three years old with her family
> from Ecuador. She did not find out she was not a naturalized citizen until
> she was in her 20s. I don't know if her parents and siblings came legally
or
> not but her parents did not know about signing papers to make their
children
> legal citizens after they came. She had to take the citizenship test
orally
> because she could not read the trench and she did not know braille.
> Thankfully she has a citizen, but she could have been one of those sent
> back. She lived in Chicago most of her childhood. She came in the 70s but
> can you imagine coming here at two or three years old with no language of
> any sort really at that age trying to understand the world? Kids 15 and
> under coming here I don't really have a choice. Lots of cultures don't
give
> kids choices like we do here in the family structure is very different
bank.
> They are very family oriented to the point where they live all together
> under one roof trying to survive.
>
> How old were you in 1965? Not every parent has the ability to do it
legally.
> I think times have changed on these countries so much that the poor are
> leaving illegally because they can't afford to pay the bribes to corrupt
> officials to get out of their country and here legally.
>
> I how many of us American born citizens could pass the naturalization
tests.
> I hear they are very difficult. And it costs a lot of money to become a
> citizen. It takes seven years from applying for citizenship to actually
> being naturalized.
>
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