[Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed

Sat Sep 16 00:49:29 UTC 2017

I was saying that, and now we've been asked to lay the conversation to rest,
so I respectfully will edo that.
Cindy

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I think what is being said here, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Cindy,
is that we want to help people who are blind whether or not they are members
of the National Federation of the Blind.  And my sense is that this means
all of us who are members of the National Federation of the Blind should be
thinking about how we can help, not that one has to be a member of the
National Federation of the Blind in order for us to help them.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
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Sorry but could you please clarify what you just said? First you stated all
of us in this country who are blind, then you state all of us who are
members of the National Federation of the Blind. As far as i'm aware there
are some 40000 or so NFB members and that is far from the total number of
blind people living in the US.

On 9/15/17, Cindy Ray via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> The whole point of the message is that if we have information 
> concerning blind DREAMers who are in the country, the national office 
> wants to have that information because these young people need to be 
> able to live the lives they want. The National Federation of the Blind 
> is committed to all of us in this country who are blind living the 
> lives we want, and as such our National Federation of the Blind will 
> continue to work toward that end.
> That
> means all of us who are members of the National Federation of the Blind.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
>
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> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ericka via blindtlk
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed
>
> Well said and couldn't agree with you more!
>
> Ericka Short
>  from my iPhone 6+
>
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Mark Tardif via blindtlk
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> DACA specifically refers to people who were brought here when they 
>> were
> children.  In other words, they had no say in that decision by their 
> parents or guardians to bring them into this country illegally.  And 
> many of them who were brought here years ago have not known any other 
> home and have gone to school and either continue to go to school or 
> are productive, employed people, who themselves pay taxes by the way.  
> So I certainly think DACA dreamers, whether blind or not, should be 
> given the help they need to continue to be productive and have a 
> better life here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Laz via blindtlk
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:24 PM
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>> Cc: Laz
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed
>>
>> Hmm. Really? Why didn't they enter the country legally? I'm asking 
>> because I entered the country legally back in 1965 along with my 
>> family. I would think I should have more rights than these people who 
>> didn't bother to take the necessary and legal steps to enter the 
>> country legally... Sounds like they just came in to be a burden on 
>> the tax payers and anyone who has ever worked legally is aware of 
>> that tax bite on their income. If this was a debate I'm starting to 
>> see which side I would fall into on this one
>>
>> Something about this just doesn't make sense so I'm obviously missing 
>> some important facts on this subject.
>>
>>> On 9/15/17, Cindy Ray via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> These are young people who fall under the care of the Deferred 
>>> Action
> Child
>>> Advocacy Act. Many of them came here with parents who did not enter 
>>> the country legally; many may have just entered alone, I think, 
>>> though don't quote me on this. They have been granted the right to 
>>> work and study
> here.
>>> I
>>> can't remember the exact meaning of DREAM acronym here. In any case, 
>>> the president is trying to remove the DACA Act, thus enabling these 
>>> young people, many of whom have never lived anywhere else, to 
>>> countries they
> know
>>> nothing about. There is more about it, but this is in short.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laz 
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>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed
>>>
>>> Okay, I'll bite. What are DREAMers?
>>>
>>> Laz
>>>
>>>> On 9/15/17, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>>> This is coming from the national federation of the blind.
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