[Blindtlk] A Short Note on the Delta Issue
Judy Jones
sonshines59 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 22 16:18:24 UTC 2018
Interesting. I always thought it was our responsibility as dog guide owners
to show identification and have no problems with that, as we have the
legislation for dog guides anyway.
Part of this is that, growing up as an Air Force brat, we had to show ID for
a number of incidents, so, to me, showing proof of a guide dog was no big
deal.
Judy
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Bryan,
I understand this. This makes the issue even more problematic. Most
guide dog users have their dogs from established training programs while
more disabled individuals train their own dogs to do work or perfrom tasks
for them. You see, it's not too difficult to teach a dog to pick up a
dropped item, open a door, or turn on lights. Some of these, such as
retrieving, are tricks many nondisabled people train their dogs to do. If
the dog is trained and well-behaved, it should be allowed access under the
law without a requirement to obtain documentation. In fact, I think that
requiring documentation is problematic, in and of itself, since it is so
easily available on the internet. Once businesses feel confident denying
access to misbehaving dogs, the problem will begin to go away.
Fraternally yours,
Marion
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National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
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Hi,
I saw a story on the news just yesterday that said tsa will be cracking down
on every person wanting to fly with a service animal so the blind are not
the only ones being asked to show proof.
Bryan
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Bryan,
The easy answer is that no other person must carry credentials other
than their government issued identification card to travel. Service animal
i.d.s can be easily faked and disabled individuals are allowed to train
their own dogs and, thus, would not have the luxury of an identification
card.
Fraternally yours,
Marion
Marion Gwizdala, President
National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
the Blind
(813) 626-2789
President at NAGDU.ORG
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind people
and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
you back.
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Hi,
The average travelling public has complicated legit blind guide dog users
lives by faking needing an animal.
Please explain why does this matter if your guide dog is legit and you can
show the wallet card?
Bryan
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Subject: [Blindtlk] A Short Note on the Delta Issue
Dear All,
I want everyone to know where we are on this. At this point,
our national leadership, including President Riccobono, John Pare, and I are
monitoring the situation and will be speaking together on Monday morning to
craft an official response and action plan. At this point, we have reviewed
the policy and the initial opinion from our legal minds is that it is
incongruent with the Air Carrier Access Act. Since there is no right of
private action, Delta has no real incentive to do anything, since the worst
that might happen to them is that the Department of Transportation orders
them to reverse their policy. The challenge is that other airlines are
considering following suit and this could create an even greater headache.
The solution we are seeking is a long-term one which would
involve making the Air Carrier Access Act a mirror of the Americans with
disabilities Act, meaning only dogs individually trained to do work or
perform tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability would be allowed
to enter the aircraft cabin. In the meantime, we are also working to create
ann initiative to offer guidance to airline personnel on how to assess the
suitability of other animals to enter the cabin. For instance, if any of us
have ever been at the gate with an out-of-control animal which the owner is
unable to correct, I do not think it would take too many instances of
airlines refusing to allow the animal in the cabin and requiring the owner
purchase a cargo ticket for the offending dog to stop the misrepresentation
of the animal as an ESA.
For now, what you all can do is to subscribe to our Twitter
feed <@nagdu> and the NAGDU Facebook page. Our national organizations are
posting information there and anything released by the NFB concerning this
issue will be reposted on our feeds. I am also considering having a special
teleconference on this issue in the next couple days; however, all our
efforts are being coordinated with our Jernigan Institute personnel so we
are consistent on our message.
Please stay tuned to our social media, including this
discussion list for updates and more information. Thank you for your passion
and willingness to take action. We are strong because of you!
Fraternally yours,
Marion\
Marion Gwizdala, President
National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
National Federation of the Blind
(813) 626-2789
President at NAGDU.ORG
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind people
and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
you back.
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