[Blindtlk] Braille

Judy Jones sonshines59 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 24 19:53:19 UTC 2018


This would depend on the devices you have to hand.  

Before all the technology we have today, for our personal use, my husband
and I have a joint checking account, and we used a spiral notebook with a
slate and stylus.  Whenever one of us made a purchase we would write in that
notebook the check number used, date, where, the amount, and then the
balance.  We would keep a running balance, just like a ledger.

Now, I do everything online, but still keep my ledger-type information on a
file in my note taker.  At the end of the year, I rename that file with the
year of those transactions, such as 2017, and store them in a folder for
archiving, in case I need to look up anything from prior years, then start
January 1 with a fresh document.

For the official bookkeeper professions, there are programs and calculators
the blind bookkeeper can use, such as Quicken.

Judy

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Hi, Judy,
	I am curious! I know you can do bookkeeping in Braille, but what
techniques would you suggest for this?



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To: "'Annely Rose'" <annely53r at yahoo.com>,"'Blind Talk Mailing 
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Date sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:28:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille

You are so right about everything you do with braille.  My 
husband and I do the same,although we also use the audio.  Audio 
is secondary to braille, and really not necessary.  We grew up in 
an age where we were adults before large-scale audio was 
available, went to college, and held down professional positions, 
all without relying heavily on audio, but braille.

We use braille for bookkeeping, and there is nothing like holding 
a little on in your lap while you both read a print/braille book.

When in a new city or having moved to a new area, I make braille 
notes when familiarizing myself to an area, so I can go back to 
them very conveniently.

AT the job working for the state from which I recently retired, I 
was the office manager, plus had my own case load, ran my own 
budget, ran a small supplies store, and assisted another 
colleague.  Braille helped me to get all this done quickly and 
efficiently.

Judy


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Well said, Judy.  Thank you for your response.

Annely
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 Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Braille
 To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org
 Cc: "Judy Jones" <sonshines59 at gmail.com
 Date: Saturday, January 20, 2018, 1:00 PM

 Hi,

 I would recommend you getting information from  the National 
Organization Of  Parents Of  Blind Children www.nopbc.org.

 I would also encourage you to ask this question  on the NFB 
Blind Educators  list.

 My background is as school
 teacher, parent, and person who has had ten and a  half years' 
experience in the blindness  field.

 First of all people
 need to understand that braille is "text" read  with the  
fingers.  It is not a language.  It need not be slower than 
reading print.
 It
 is a literacy tool, while audio is not.  Different parts of  the 
brain are  used when reading braille or  print, and if you use 
audio only, no matter how  proficient you are at it, you are 
functionally  "illiterate."  This is not a  slam  on any 
individual personally, just a given fact, since  braille is a  
literacy tool.

 Phrases like "learn
 braille," and "use braille," should be out  the door, and  
exchanged for the simple verb,  "read," because that is what it 
is, plain and
 simple:  reading.

 Blind adults and children learning to
 "read" need to work at it
 consistently, 20 minutes daily, just as their  sighted 
counterparts are  taught in school.  Print and braille are BOTH 
forms of reading, and if you  practice,  you will succeed.

 Question:  Would any sighted
 parent be satisfied if a school declared that  their children 
would be relegated to audio  experience only?  I think not!

 Audio only learners are spotted early, because  of poor 
spelling,  punctuation, and document  layout.  Granted, screen 
readers have all the  tools for you to check these things, but a  
person has no concept of a  realtime document  if they are audio 
learners only.

 I am acquainted personally with a child who has  very limited 
vision, but  because there is  some vision, braille was not 
encouraged.  This  elementary  school child, according to the  
parents, has never seen a whole word or  sentence, does not have 
a concept of what that  looks like, as the child can  only see 
one  letter at a time with a magnifier.  After speaking with  my  
husband and I, the parents are getting  serious about getting 
their child  some good  braille training.

 Also, I
 have seen figures that state in this country that out of the  
blind  persons who are competitively  employed, approximately 90% 
read using  braille.  The earlier one is exposed to  braille, no 
matter how young or  level of  visual acuity, the better.

 "If you can read, you can lead."

 Can you tell, I am a proponent
 of braille.  :)

 Judy


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 What do you consider great when it comes to  introducing, 
promoting and using  braille and  what would you use to encourage 
the future generations to do  so  and for some special ed 
teachers and the  public to realize that braille is  as  
important as print and should be viewed as such.

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