[BlindTlk] Query about family vacations and blindness.

Thu Jun 28 06:03:55 UTC 2018

Hi all!
 We have tried to take on the burden with this annual vacation in the past to no avail. We have even tried to colaberate with his family as well. Since we have noticed that we’re not getting the support we need during the vacation, we have decided after going through some of the feedback that I recieved before leaving the house for a BBQ, that the coast trip is simply not the right vacation spot for us. Because we both have tried to the best of our abilities to make this particular vacation work out without any luck, we have deamed it the wrong location for our vacation needs. I made the call myself that I didn’t want to go back because it won’t work out in such a way that it would be fair to everyone envolved. We can’t make our family give us the team that we need to include me in the vacation while allowing my boy friend to also get his needs met. So, because of this lack of support, we simply can’t go back to that resourt and expect it to improve in less his best friend and their kids were there. Since that is not as likely because of changes in their own lives, we can’t depend on that factor either. Thank you all for the feedback that you’ve given to me!!! I think over all, it has helped out a lot!!!

Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731 at gmail.com
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu
Phone:
971-599-9991
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From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Danielle Ledet via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:38:23 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: Danielle Ledet
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Query about family vacations and blindness.

Tell ya what? Either he would take a more proactive role integrating
me into the family or, I wouldn't go. Point blank period. This
rlationship seems to long and this vacay has been already had for this
type of noncommitment. I would be evaluating any future long-term
plans and making an ultimatum.

On 6/27/18, Cindy Ray via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> If you have been together six years, I would think he would have already
> commenced to do this.
> Cindy Lou
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via
> BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 8:22 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Query about family vacations and blindness.
>
> That's true, but at the start, I think Boyfriend needs to help set the tone
> for the family on Kendra's behalf.
>
> Judy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vejas
> Vasiliauskas via BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:13 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Vejas Vasiliauskas
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Query about family vacations and blindness.
>
> Hi Kendra,
> I can't really answer your question about vacations because I haven't really
> experienced vacations with people I don't know too well. Most have been with
> my parents and brother, and some were at my training at LCB, where it sort
> of was every man for himself but in which we all, as training center
> students, could help each other out, if that makes sense.
> I think that if your boyfriend doesn't really understand what you'd like,
> then I'd go with Judy's approach of talking to his family without him being
> there.
> Vejas
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 27 Jun 2018, at 16:08, Kendra Schaber via BlindTlk
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all!
>> I have a query that both my sited boy friend and I are compleetly lost on
>> how to solve. Most years, we go to the Oregon coast with my boy friend's
>> family for Independent's Day week. I have gone on this trip 3 times since
>> we met in 2011. I enjoy the nice resourt where we visit, the nice ocean
>> beaches and the little rock bowl where my boy friend and I have collected
>> unique rocks with almost each visit. However, dispite these and the
>> awesome firework show, there is a problem laying under the surfice. The
>> location is not anywhere near a bus line, getting from the resourt to the
>> beach has tricky tarain to navigate and where ever I rome while on
>> vacation, I have to have sited assistence to get there. I'm the only blind
>> person out of the whole group of sited people. Whenever it is not a meal,
>> it's every man for himself or herself. Everyone except me can go anywhere
>> we please without assistence most of the time, the big exception is the
>> rock bowl. With this setting, the only dependent things that's expected to
>> be dependent are children and pets. To add insalt to enjury, I have also
>> had the problem with not having cell service during these vacations which
>> majorly cramped my style of being able to text or call to everyone else
>> during the trip myself so if I wanted or needed to get that done, I also
>> had to ask my boy friend to also play messenger. I'm glad that I changed
>> carriers since last year but I don't know if it will improve my cell
>> service itself for the next time I go on this kind of vacation. Meanwhile,
>> cell service or the lack of it is the least of my worries with this query
>> because I have bigger problems to solve. Most unfortunently, this senario
>> leaves me stuck between a rock and a hard place because my boy friend and
>> I have very different needs while we are there. My boy friend is a
>> landscaper who is experiencing endless job burn out at the office and
>> because of this, the coast relaxis him so much that he can't easily
>> function throughout the whole vacation. Meanwhile, I'd like to go out and
>> explore, go on to the beach, collect rocks and spend time with everyone
>> there. Mind you, my boy friend enjoys collecting rocks himself and it's
>> his very favorite activity that he does while there. Unfortunently, my boy
>> friend did admit to me last year that because of his burn out, he finds it
>> very diffacolt to fofill my needs during these vacations. In fact, my boy
>> friend feels most responsable for this task. On top of that, he also says
>> that he doesn't expect that same responsability from everyone else there
>> to assist him in helping myself while he is trying to get the sleep that
>> he needs to make up from his igzosting days at the office during the
>> vacation. He expects me to hold up to that same standard that I listed
>> above regarding the burden of responsability. As though he's suposed to
>> take my needs on or he be the only one apart from myself to take my needs
>> on during the vacation. Mind you, he also wants me to be as independent as
>> possable while I'm there. Mind you, this standard is out of good ethics,
>> not out of control. However, we are having trouble with meeting this
>> whenever we have gone on these vacations. As though that isn't enough of a
>> sacrafice without everyone else in the picture, I also land everyone else
>> a major sacrafice in assisting myself, rather as though I've been more of
>> a burden than just a fellow vacationer who happens to be blind. My boy
>> friend and I have thrown our arms up in the air in serender endlessly with
>> trying to find more balance during this annual occation. I'll give him
>> credit where it's due that he's pointed out to me that because of my lack
>> of knowledge, I'm putting as much of a sacrafice if not more on to
>> everyone else there including my boy friend himself as the trip itself is
>> putting on to myself just by my attendence. Because of these issues that I
>> layed out, I have enjoyed some aspects of the vacations but have come home
>> feeling as though I was not a productive part of the vacation even when I
>> at least try to be productive in trying to solve the problem of our
>> different needs. I often felt as though I was the cause of any and all
>> trouble that has ever occured during the vacations that I was lucky or
>> unlucky enough to be there. Mind you, I felt this even if it wasn't at all
>> my falt. But most importantly, I feel like I'm the sole burden, not the
>> fellow vacationer, the one that causes all of the sacrafices either to
>> myself or to others while I'm there. I also feel very powerless while I'm
>> there, as though I'm on the wim of the whole universe. My boy friend did
>> suggest that I help out during the next time we go on this trip. Really,
>> it's about being as fair as possable. Unfortunently, I didn't grow up
>> going on vacations where every man is for himself. Everyone, inperfections
>> and all has always included me into a lot of the activities during those
>> vacations. I have always had to play a very clear part on a team. I have
>> had to do that at the Oregon School for the Blind, girl scouts and family
>> vacations that I had growing up with my birth family. Since I don't get to
>> go on vacations with my birth family any more except for camping trips
>> where I launch rockets, I now have to learn a whole new vacation calture
>> if you will. I'd like a lot of wise advice here. The lack of it is driving
>> both my boy friend and I insane! This area is also the biggest headache in
>> our whole entire relationship. My boy friend suggested that I help either
>> with meal preparation and/or clean up but neither of us can think of other
>> ways for me to assist while I'm there. My boy friend did say that there
>> are surprising ways where I could help out but even he couldn't come up
>> with what those things are.
>> How can I as a blind adult take this kind of vacation on and be as
>> independent as possable?
>> How can I do this while being as fair to the whole group as possable?
>> How can I drive my life while on a vacation where every man is for himself
>> in the same way or equal to when I'm at home where the busses are located?
>>
>> How can I get past any sighted person stariotype that might be thrown at
>> me during this kind of vacation?
>> How can I make the most of this kind of vacation while having to depend on
>> others to assist me?
>> How can I do this in the most ethical, fairest way to everyone there as
>> possable?
>> Does this all come down to communication?
>> If I offer to assist and how to assist but get turned down, then how else
>> can I make these vacations fair to both myself and everyone else there?
>> Is there truely a fair way to go about this whole thing?
>> When nothing is offered, how can I get my needs met in the fairest way
>> possable while allowing my boy friend to do whatever he needs to do like
>> for example, how can I go to the beach with others who are already going
>> while my boy friend is taking a nap because he doesn't want to go because
>> he's igzosted from job burnout?
>> How on earth can I even get around this barrier without causing a lot of
>> unwanted trouble to myself, my boy friend or others?
>> Is it even possable for my boy friend and I to meet our needs on this kind
>> of vacation and come home from it with both of us feeling as though it was
>> the vacation that it's suposed to be?
>> Is it even remotely possable for both of us to be truely happy with this
>> kind of vacation in the first place?
>> Is this even the right kind of vacation for both my boy friend and I to be
>> taking on?
>> If so, how do we take this adversity on?
>> If not, then how can we go about it next time when we do have to take this
>> kind of vacation on?
>> I suspect that there is something major that is missing on these
>> vacations. Can you please let me know, what do you think is missing with
>> this scene?
>> We are totally lost in outer space on this one. I'd greatly appriciate any
>> and all advice on this matter!
>> Thank you for your wise counsel in advance!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to read this E Mail!
>> Blessed be!!!
>> Kendra Schaber,
>> Chemeketa Community College,
>> 350 Org,
>> Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
>> National Federation of the Blind of Oregon, Capitol Chapter, Salem,
>> Oregon.
>> Home email:
>> Redwing731 at gmail.com
>> Chemeketa Community College Email:
>> Kschaber at my.Chemeketa.edu
>> Phone:
>> 971-599-9991
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