[BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and Devices

Sun Apr 7 15:12:02 UTC 2019

You're right about that, that sight doesn't mean automatic cleanliness.  I'm
thinking back to a roommate I had in college for a very short time.  It
really comes down to how you've been trained and your preferences.

Judy

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From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell via BlindTlk
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 4:58 AM
To: Raymond Foret Jr via BlindTlk
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and
Devices

A sighted person has less in the way of excuses though. On Sun, 7 Apr
2019, Raymond Foret Jr via BlindTlk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 07:21:02
> From: Raymond Foret Jr via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Raymond Foret Jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and
>     Devices
>
> Hey, don?t assume that a sighted person always cleans better than a blind
person.  Trust me, that ain?t so.
>
>
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the
blind:
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The constantly barefooted Ray
>
> > On Apr 6, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Humberto Avila via BlindTlk
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Judy and Ray,
> > Thanks for clarifying this information. Of course, when I meant to say
about the probability of germs I didn't say that I cannot clean or do an
equal job at it as a sighted person would because I am fully capable of
doing it. Rather, I was thinking in my mind about having to always feel when
I am cleaning to see if there are any spots around, especially if I need to
fill something I thought I ran over but didn't. My understanding is that a
sighted person would always see where they would target their cleaning, so
they can do it efficiently.
> > Always washing hands is just a good practice, I knew this even from
middle and high school. But my dilemma is not about blindness; but rather,
how to learn to be as consistent and do it as confidently and efficiently as
a sighted person.
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback again.
> > Humberto
> >
> > ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive
actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
> > ? ME
> >
> >> On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sighted or blind, always wash your hands with soap, germs are no
respector of persons or disabilities.  Sighted folks don't clean just by
looking at it, they have to get their hands dirty, too.
> >>
> >> Clean is clean.  We buy the dawn detergent, because it is so good for
so many things.  A drop of it in a bucket of water also tends to break the
water tension, so is a good all-round cleaner, even if meant for dishes.  We
keep a gallon in the kitchen and some in each bathroom.
> >>
> >> Sighted or blind, if you have done a dirty job, indoors or out, wash
afterwards with soap.
> >>
> >> Judy
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Humberto Avila via BlindTlk
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:28 PM
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Cc: Humberto Avila
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions
and Devices
> >>
> >> Thanks all for your awesome ideas.
> >>
> >> I really see the value of feeling or "policing" the area where I clean
up, as a Blind person. My hands are my eyes, which is yes something that I
already knew. However, seeing as the content of the kitchen counter, floors,
or even toilets may have many germs on or in them, I would be concerned as
to the probability of me getting sick from getting in contact with those
germs which would be far greater than the probability for a sighted person,
whom uses their eyes to police the area, even if I wash my hands.
> >> It sort of feels like a Blind person would have to do some more extra
steps just to be as proactive and make the place look clean or professional
at all times. How often should I do these things? In your experience are
there products that have better cleaning consistency than others? How do I
tell?
> >> Thanks in advance and sorry about my many questions. It's just that
it's my first time doing it.
> >>
> >> Humberto
> >>
> >> ?Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive
actions which lead to positive outcomes.?
> >> ? ME
> >>
> >>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Anitra Webber via BlindTlk
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I like to use wipes. Sometimes leave a chemical residue which you can
feel. A wet paper towel or rag will take care of that.
> >>>
> >>> I use a scrub brush and Comet powder cleanser in water on my tub and
mat. After I finish with the brush I use a rag to wash it off. I wipe with
the rag as the water drains out of the tub because sometimes some of the
cleaner and soap scum stays at the bottom the tub. (I use a rough kitchen
washcloth as a rag.) I wash the wall around the tub because soap gets on it
when I take a shower. I hang the tub mat on the shower curtain rod so it and
the tub can dry, preventing mildew. I put my rug under the mat (on the
floor) so that the water won't drip on the floor. I have a cloth shower
curtain that I can put in the clothes washer. It's easier than washing the
soap scum off a plastic/vinyl curtain. Also I use the liquid body wash
instead of bar soap because it doesn't a lot of soap scum in the tub.
> >>> SOS pads are good for cleaning the oven. But it's a good idea to use a
wet rag to rinse of the soap the pads leave behind.
> >>>
> >>> Sponges with a scubber on one side are really helpful to remove soap
scum from the bathroom counter and sink. I do that before using a
disinfecting wipe.
> >>>
> >>> If you have a Dollar Tree store near you, you can get a good deal on
things you need to clean your appartment. I don't recommend their brooms and
mops though.
> >>> Anitra Webber
> >>>
> >>>  On Saturday, April 6, 2019, 5:43:57 PM MDT, Humberto Avila via
BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello everyone on the Blind Talk list:
> >>>
> >>> I am currently starting to live in an apartment independently with a
roomate and I have some questions about cleaning it.
> >>>
> >>> Based on your experiences, which produt(s) are more efficient,
effective, and accessibly do the job well for a blind person? How are your
experiences with using wipes, general-purpose systems and soaps? Which ones
should I use in the kitchen and which ones do I need for the bathroom ETC?
How do you properly use them nonvisually?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much! Have an awesome weekend!
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely, Humberto
> >>>
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