[BlindTlk] Computers for the blind

Fri Apr 19 17:50:25 UTC 2019

Georgia it’s a temporary work experience through vocational rehab at the
Goodwill headquarters here in Madison Wisconsin. It’s not a full-time job.
It’s something to get me back into working after 10 years of
non-employment.  I agree that you shouldn’t take your own computer or
anything of your own into a job for the reasons you stated. That’s not
where I am right now. I’m just learning jaws and other computer skills in a
work setting. Then I’m going to start applying in my field as human
services BTW.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 12:35 PM Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Let’s talk off-line about this Steve.
>
> Right now I have a home  Version on a dead computer. Therefore at home
> unless I use my husband‘s computer which is also an older windows computer
> I don’t have anything at home. I rely on my iPhone.
>
> I’m trying to go back to work and my VR counselor wants to get my home
> version up to 2019 addition and use that at my temporary work experience.
> So this is not a hired position that I will be doing for years. Therefore I
> need to have a traveling subscription that will work. Since we don’t share
> Computers too well at home, – – he’s doing online classes for web
> accessibility testing – – I don’t have much access. With only one person
> working we have limited funds and thanking about getting a computer through
> computers for the blind might be the most cost-effective. Especially since
> really the updated version I have on my boat anchor a.k.a. a 2011 HP that
> cannot get memory extended actually has my husbands license because of his
> SMA. I certainly hope that sentence made sense. Anyhow my quandary is that.
> I need something for future work and something for home. I didn’t feel
> right just jumping in and paying money for something that doesn’t work for
> most people since I already struggle with Windows based technology.
> Actually technology is not kind to me but that’s for another email.
>
> Hope this clarifies honestly I don’t think my VR counselor knows there is
> a difference or even that a professional version exists. I’ve never had A
> job that required computer use. Times have changed and almost anytime you
> work in the human services field you’re going to need this skill. My vision
> and times are catching up with me. Thanks for all your help.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Steve Jacobson via BlindTlk <
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Ericka,
>
> I'm not certain that I completely understand your situation.  Those who
> produce software such as Vispero have the right to define their pricing
> based upon how their software is used.  They can tell you that you can't
> use your home license on a work machine.  Obviously, if you used your home
> computer at work, it would be hard for them to ever figure that out.  If
> you had a professional license, though, you could install it on a work
> machine and you could still use that on your home machine.  You could
> likely upgrade your home license to a professional license for less money
> than buying a new professional license, but your agency may not pay to
> upgrade your home license.  The advantage to you having one license to deal
> with is that upgrades will cost you less in the future.  You will pay
> something every year to upgrade both your home and your professional
> license, so having a single license to upgrade will cost less.  As far as I
> know, using your professional license on a work machine and at home is
> permitted.  Obviously, it would be good to check that out for certain,
> though.
>
> It is getting less and less the case that an employer will allow you to
> use your own computer in a workplace, though.  If they do let you use your
> own computer, it is more likely that they may want their virus checker and
> possibly other protective software to be used.  The Professional version of
> JAWS would let you install it on their machine.  Some smaller employees are
> more likely to be glad to find a way to save some money by having you use
> your own computer thereby leaving one of theirs available for somebody
> else.  Suggesting that you bring your computer for use because you have a
> screen reader on it already seems a little shabby, though, as it sounds
> like they are just saving a computer more than anything.
>
> The whole landscape is getting more complicated with work machines.  Ten
> years ago, I was able to use a desktop at work and also install all of my
> work software on my home machine.  However, it is no longer possible to do
> anything for work on my home computer except email, and that is not easy.
> There are restrictions on what I can update on my work computer as well.
> Some employers lock that down completely to the extent that an IT
> professional might have to install JAWS and even update JAWS.  This is all
> done for security and also to make sure that software on a computer is not
> pirated.
>
> I hope this makes some sense.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ericka via
> BlindTlk
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 4:29 PM
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> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind
>
> It depends on what the situation is and of course I would ask permission.
> Actually for my temporary work experience at Goodwill in their office they
> were wondering if I had a computer to bring in with speech software already
> on it. Since that isn’t the case DVR will be doing the subscription thing.
> Should I let my counselor know that I should have the professional version?
> After all this is something I will be able to take from workplace to
> workplace. I understand that it works differently than the home version
> which of course would be on a Computers For The Blind machine which would
> be fine for home use.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> In addition, I believe you could get in trouble with an employer for
>
> bringing your computer into the workplace, depending on the level of
>
> confidentiality they need to maintain.
>
>
> Judy
>
> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of Jude
>
> DaShiell via BlindTlk
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> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:22 AM
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> To: Ericka via BlindTlk
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> Cc: Jude DaShiell
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind
>
>
> It is never a good idea to take a home computer into the workplace!
>
> Even more so if you work for part of the national infrastructure or
>
> government.  Reason for that is simple.  Computers in those workplaces
>
> get hacked regularly.  If you have a separate workplace computer and a
>
> home computer and your workplace computer gets hacked, it's technical
>
> support (help desk) responsibility to fix it.  If you only use your home
>
> computer at home and in work, you could be responsible for any data loss
>
> and any necessary repairs.  If an employer hasn't got enough money to
>
> set you up with a workplace computer and any other office equipment
>
> necessary for you to do your work, that employer is too
>
> under-capitalized to hire you.
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:
>
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:48:30
>
> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
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> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind
>
>
> Georgia, I am in Wisconsin. I agree with Mr. Mac out there. If I?m doing
>
> it for home use only I would love to have a Mac. But a PC is more practical
>
> since it can go into the workforce.
>
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>
> On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Georgia Cabus via BlindTlk
>
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Seen your email at the blindtlk. I checked them out before but I got mt
>
> laptop from Kevin from one of the listserv. He's from a non-profit org
>
> too
>
> and very helpful on what I needed. I didn't have a lot budget for a
>
> laptop
>
> but he found me a 12" lenovo that worked (I needed a lightweight with a
>
> good specs) and I got it for $135 plus shipping.
>
>
> If you can't find any laptop from CFTB I can give his email.
>
>
> Or if you are at certain states, there's local organizations that help
>
> on
>
> computers. Where are you from? I might know something.
>
>
> Georgia
>
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