[BlindTlk] Shopping

PLipovsky plipovsky at cfl.rr.com
Sun Dec 22 16:49:20 UTC 2019 

Just for the record, I usually don't have a problem shopping at Walmart in my area either.



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From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 7:34 AM
To: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Shopping

The California Maryland WalMart was excellent helping me shop in that store for the 18 years I lived in Maryland.  Apparently WalMart varies widely locally.

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 04:35:58
> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Shopping
>
> Not all of this on the list are pathetic and want everything done for us. If i can get a friend or family member, great. while you have good points Peter don?t stereotype here.
>
> Ideally all of us could live like you. Too many personal factors to be telling us there?s only one way to do something.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
> > On Dec 21, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Mary Donahue via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Let's keep in mind that under the ADA retail establishments are under no obligation to provide this type of assistance. With that said it's to their advantage to provide curtesy services such as shopping assistance to disabled customers when requested to do so. It gets more customers in the store and helps them earn a good reputation among the markets they serve.
> >
> >    H.E.B. Grocery here in Texas is very good about providing shopping assistance to their disabled customers. Steinmart is also another clothing store chain that is very good when it comes to helping blind customers as are other places we shop in San Antonio and in other travel destinations.
> >
> >    Customer assistance for anyone at Wallmart is next to nonexistent. For times when you must shop at such an establishment or simply to bring someone with you who knows your shopping habbits is an excelent idea. We use a service called "Visiting Angels" that among other things helps us with shopping. It's the best $500 per month we spend.
> >
> >    If you don't have that cash lying around it's time to find ways to create the income needed to hire such a service. Legislation requiring merchants to provide shopping assistance is only one remedy. Better still is getting off of your behind and creating opportunities when they don't exist. Yes the blind need equal opportunity but it's our responsibility to answer the door when opportunity knocks reguardless of its form. No one attends college to learn how to flip hamburgers. They do it to provide income for themselves until a better job or more desireable career can be found. It's time the blind smartened up and did the same. Opening your mind to harnessing income-producing vehicles to raise the needed cash to utilize a service like Visiting Angels is in your best interest as it turned out for us. Now we hardly ever have issues like those folks who shopped at Ross described in other posts. Happy holidays everyone.
> >
> > Peter Donahue
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 10:34 AM
> > To: sheila leigland via BlindTlk
> > Cc: Jude DaShiell
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> > Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >
> > That's how that was for me in Lexington Park for the most part.  
> > Where I am now Staff takes me shopping and Staff is paid from the 
> > Population's money to do that duty along with many others depending 
> > on how high or low functioning the particular Population Member happens to be.
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, sheila leigland via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>
> >> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 11:28:09
> >> From: sheila leigland via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> To: J w via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: sheila leigland <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help Blind Man
> >>     Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>
> >> hi, I? go to the service desk and ask for assistance, and walk down 
> >> the isles with he or she so that I know what is being chosen? as 
> >> well? as handling the items as necessary. I haven't paid the store 
> >> employee? I don't usually call ahead and sometimes there can be a 
> >> wait time of a few minutes to get assistance but that is fine with me.
> >>
> >>> On 12/21/2019 9:13 AM, J w via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>> So when everyone goes grocery shopping or any type of shopping do 
> >>> you hand a list of items to the personal shopping for you or yeah 
> >>> I think that?s my question I am the handle list of groceries that 
> >>> you want to person to pick up for you and do you just sit down and 
> >>> wait for the items to be delivered to be delivered for you or how 
> >>> do you do that I?ve never been grocery shopping by myself as a 
> >>> blonde adult so I don?t now and also do you pay the person to you 
> >>> when I get to items for you thank you
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:11 AM, PLipovsky via BlindTlk 
> >>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is definitely a possibility although I have called ahead at 
> >>>> Walmart, and it worked out in my favor.  I think if a store is 
> >>>> busy  when someone requests assistance, they can simply say we 
> >>>> can help in ten minutes, 20 minutes, or whatever the time frame is.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy 
> >>>> Jones via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 7:22 PM
> >>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To 
> >>>> Help Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> On the otherhand, although  I understand planning, sighted people 
> >>>> who come in to shop don't have to call ahead, and, for other 
> >>>> reasons, may also need some customer assistance.  To my way of 
> >>>> thinking, calling ahead may give whoever happens to answer the 
> >>>> phone to refuse you service before you even get in the door.
> >>>>
> >>>> Judy
> >>>>
> >>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> >>>> Mark Tardif via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 4:08 PM
> >>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>>> Cc: Mark Tardif
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To 
> >>>> Help Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> Sherri, I think you are right.  I have been extremely fortunate 
> >>>> here and elsewhere about getting help, and I usually have a 
> >>>> friend come with me and help me.  Otherwise, when necessary, I 
> >>>> have called stores to find out if personnel are available to 
> >>>> help.  Nevertheless, if this account is accurate,
> >>>>
> >>>> this was a boneheaded move by that store to tell this man they 
> >>>> weren't required to help.  They might have simply suggested that 
> >>>> in the future he call beforehand.  Wow, there are other things I 
> >>>> could say about this, but I'll keep that private because it might 
> >>>> sound inflammatory.  But a really dumb business move on the part 
> >>>> of that store if that indeed is what happened.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Tardif
> >>>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sherri via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:39 PM
> >>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> >>>> Cc: Sherri
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To 
> >>>> Help Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> In my opinion, it's always good to call in first and make sure 
> >>>> they have staff that can help.  This time of year, the stores get 
> >>>> very busy.  Just a thought.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sherri
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> >>>> Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:03 PM
> >>>> To: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To 
> >>>> Help Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> Same thing happened to me in Lexington Park Olies after it opened up.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 16:03:32
> >>>>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To 
> >>>>> Help Blind
> >>>> Man
> >>>>>     Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had that happen with Ross's several years ago, and the reason 
> >>>>> given that they simply didn't haveany employees who could leave 
> >>>>> their registers, and no extra customer service people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Judy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> >>>>> Armando Vias via BlindTlk
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 12:48 PM
> >>>>> To: BlindTlk at nfbnet.org
> >>>>> Cc: Armando Vias
> >>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>>> Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://theblindadvocate.com/news/ross-store-employees-refuses-t
> >>>>> o-help
> >>>>> -blind
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