[BlindTlk] Shopping

Pamela Dominguez pammygirl99 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 22 22:08:03 UTC 2019 

Wow!  You are lucky!  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 3:33 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Cc: Judy Jones
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Shopping

We pretty much go to Fred Meyer and Pioneer Market now, great customer 
service, but throughout my lifetime, I have gotten great customer service 
wherever I have shopped.  I can only think of two times when not.  I even 
received fine shopper assistance when shopping overseas.

Judy

“Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
DaShiell via BlindTlk
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 4:34 AM
To: Ericka via BlindTlk
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Shopping

The California Maryland WalMart was excellent helping me shop in that
store for the 18 years I lived in Maryland.  Apparently WalMart varies
widely locally.

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 04:35:58
> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Shopping
>
> Not all of this on the list are pathetic and want everything done for us. 
> If i can get a friend or family member, great. while you have good points 
> Peter don?t stereotype here.
>
> Ideally all of us could live like you. Too many personal factors to be 
> telling us there?s only one way to do something.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
> > On Dec 21, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Mary Donahue via BlindTlk 
> > <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Let's keep in mind that under the ADA retail establishments are under no 
> > obligation to provide this type of assistance. With that said it's to 
> > their advantage to provide curtesy services such as shopping assistance 
> > to disabled customers when requested to do so. It gets more customers in 
> > the store and helps them earn a good reputation among the markets they 
> > serve.
> >
> >    H.E.B. Grocery here in Texas is very good about providing shopping 
> > assistance to their disabled customers. Steinmart is also another 
> > clothing store chain that is very good when it comes to helping blind 
> > customers as are other places we shop in San Antonio and in other travel 
> > destinations.
> >
> >    Customer assistance for anyone at Wallmart is next to nonexistent. 
> > For times when you must shop at such an establishment or simply to bring 
> > someone with you who knows your shopping habbits is an excelent idea. We 
> > use a service called "Visiting Angels" that among other things helps us 
> > with shopping. It's the best $500 per month we spend.
> >
> >    If you don't have that cash lying around it's time to find ways to 
> > create the income needed to hire such a service. Legislation requiring 
> > merchants to provide shopping assistance is only one remedy. Better 
> > still is getting off of your behind and creating opportunities when they 
> > don't exist. Yes the blind need equal opportunity but it's our 
> > responsibility to answer the door when opportunity knocks reguardless of 
> > its form. No one attends college to learn how to flip hamburgers. They 
> > do it to provide income for themselves until a better job or more 
> > desireable career can be found. It's time the blind smartened up and did 
> > the same. Opening your mind to harnessing income-producing vehicles to 
> > raise the needed cash to utilize a service like Visiting Angels is in 
> > your best interest as it turned out for us. Now we hardly ever have 
> > issues like those folks who shopped at Ross described in other posts. 
> > Happy holidays everyone.
> >
> > Peter Donahue
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > DaShiell via BlindTlk
> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 10:34 AM
> > To: sheila leigland via BlindTlk
> > Cc: Jude DaShiell
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> > Blind Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >
> > That's how that was for me in Lexington Park for the most part.  Where I
> > am now Staff takes me shopping and Staff is paid from the Population's
> > money to do that duty along with many others depending on how high or
> > low functioning the particular Population Member happens to be.
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019, sheila leigland via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>
> >> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 11:28:09
> >> From: sheila leigland via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> To: J w via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: sheila leigland <sheila.leigland at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >> Blind Man
> >>     Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>
> >> hi, I? go to the service desk and ask for assistance, and walk down the 
> >> isles
> >> with he or she so that I know what is being chosen? as well? as 
> >> handling the
> >> items as necessary. I haven't paid the store employee? I don't usually 
> >> call
> >> ahead and sometimes there can be a wait time of a few minutes to get
> >> assistance but that is fine with me.
> >>
> >>> On 12/21/2019 9:13 AM, J w via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>> So when everyone goes grocery shopping or any type of shopping do you 
> >>> hand a
> >>> list of items to the personal shopping for you or yeah I think that?s 
> >>> my
> >>> question I am the handle list of groceries that you want to person to 
> >>> pick
> >>> up for you and do you just sit down and wait for the items to be 
> >>> delivered
> >>> to be delivered for you or how do you do that I?ve never been grocery
> >>> shopping by myself as a blonde adult so I don?t now and also do you 
> >>> pay the
> >>> person to you when I get to items for you thank you
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 10:11 AM, PLipovsky via BlindTlk 
> >>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This is definitely a possibility although I have called ahead at 
> >>>> Walmart,
> >>>> and it worked out in my favor.  I think if a store is busy  when 
> >>>> someone
> >>>> requests assistance, they can simply say we can help in ten minutes, 
> >>>> 20
> >>>> minutes, or whatever the time frame is.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones 
> >>>> via
> >>>> BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 7:22 PM
> >>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>> Blind
> >>>> Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> On the otherhand, although  I understand planning, sighted people who 
> >>>> come
> >>>> in to shop don't have to call ahead, and, for other reasons, may also 
> >>>> need
> >>>> some customer assistance.  To my way of thinking, calling ahead may 
> >>>> give
> >>>> whoever happens to answer the phone to refuse you service before you 
> >>>> even
> >>>> get in the door.
> >>>>
> >>>> Judy
> >>>>
> >>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> >>>> Tardif
> >>>> via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 4:08 PM
> >>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >>>> Cc: Mark Tardif
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>> Blind
> >>>> Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> Sherri, I think you are right.  I have been extremely fortunate here 
> >>>> and
> >>>> elsewhere about getting help, and I usually have a friend come with 
> >>>> me and
> >>>> help me.  Otherwise, when necessary, I have called stores to find out 
> >>>> if
> >>>> personnel are available to help.  Nevertheless, if this account is
> >>>> accurate,
> >>>>
> >>>> this was a boneheaded move by that store to tell this man they 
> >>>> weren't
> >>>> required to help.  They might have simply suggested that in the 
> >>>> future he
> >>>> call beforehand.  Wow, there are other things I could say about this, 
> >>>> but
> >>>> I'll keep that private because it might sound inflammatory.  But a 
> >>>> really
> >>>> dumb business move on the part of that store if that indeed is what
> >>>> happened.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark Tardif
> >>>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Sherri via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:39 PM
> >>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> >>>> Cc: Sherri
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>> Blind
> >>>> Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> In my opinion, it's always good to call in first and make sure they 
> >>>> have
> >>>> staff that can help.  This time of year, the stores get very busy. 
> >>>> Just a
> >>>> thought.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sherri
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
> >>>> DaShiell via BlindTlk
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:03 PM
> >>>> To: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>> Blind
> >>>> Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>
> >>>> Same thing happened to me in Lexington Park Olies after it opened up.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 16:03:32
> >>>>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help
> >>>>> Blind
> >>>> Man
> >>>>>     Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had that happen with Ross's several years ago, and the reason 
> >>>>> given
> >>>>> that they simply didn't haveany employees who could leave their
> >>>>> registers, and no extra customer service people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Judy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> Armando Vias via BlindTlk
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 12:48 PM
> >>>>> To: BlindTlk at nfbnet.org
> >>>>> Cc: Armando Vias
> >>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] UNACCEPTABLE! Ross Employees Refuses To Help 
> >>>>> Blind
> >>>>> Man Shop Because Of "Policy" | The Blind Advocate
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://theblindadvocate.com/news/ross-store-employees-refuses-to-help
> >>>>> -blind
> >>>>> -man-shop/
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