[BlindTlk] Braille books in old old

Tue Sep 3 17:31:01 UTC 2019

Yes, that does make sense to stick with what you know.

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From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka via BlindTlk
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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old

Not asking anyone to switch. I just want to get rid of some grade to braille! Somebody, please take the stuff is frustrates the heck out of me. At 47 years old I’m going to stick with what I can read fluently as well as I can reprint.. or should I say used to be able to read print. When I was learning print I was barely legally blind albeit only in one eye. The other I saw nothing.  I’ve been reading since I was four… Print that is.

Ericka Nelson

> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'll just be honest and say at this stage in the game, I'm not going to change over to producing UEB myself, although I have no problems reading it.
> 
> I consider old, old braille, the New York Point system.
> 
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> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, David W. (ESC) via BlindTlk
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
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> Well, whether we like it or not, the train has left the station. I can read UEB better than I can write it. Sixty years of doing it one way doesn't change in a moment. I still put words together, use signs that have gone away, and when reading, I come to a full stop when I see a, followed by tion. 
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
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> I think of the old saying if it’s not broke don’t fix it they broke it by trying to fix it
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> There are words that you can’t combine together anymore like of the house to have a space between it. The sign for by like “by the seaside or byline Hass to be spelled out now.
>> Trust me, I’ve tried to read the stuff and I can’t. It’s too confusing. Punctuation changed a lot by the way. The simple.?, Etc. didn’t but have you looked at those parenthesis? Yeah they look a lot more like print so it’s easy for me to remember how to read.
>> 
>> Ericka Nelson
>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In US Braille:
>>> 
>>> Dropped d at the beginning of a word is letters dis.
>>> In the middle is a double-d as in "daddy."
>>> At the end is a period.
>>> 
>>> Dropped h at beginning is a open-quote In middle, not used in 
>>> literary braille.
>>> At the end, a question-mark.
>>> 
>>> Dropped F:
>>> At beginning is the word "to."
>>> In the middle is a double-f.
>>> At the end is an exclamation point.
>>> 
>>> These things aren't that much different in UEB, although some of the rules did change for UEB.
>>> 
>>> Judy
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Ericka via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 7:20 PM
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>>> Cc: Ericka
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
>>> 
>>> Judy, and I learn braille as a child or had no residual vision I probably could. However I find the US braille difficult. Dropped F, drop D and dropped H. is in weird places main something depending on where they are.   That is confusing! I read faster in the new braille. I have children’s books and some religious things for the taking.
>>> 
>>> Ericka Nelson
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, Erika,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, if you can do UEB braille, you can also read US.  There are differences in the punctuation and numbers formatting, but the numbers and letters themselves are all the same.  Most of the contractions are the same, they have done away with some of them, but you will never find a strange formation of dots you can't recognize.
>>>> 
>>>> I took the UEB course, just to know what it is like, and although I prefer US braille, I can read the UEB.  
>>>> 
>>>> Judy
>>>> “Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Ericka via BlindTlk
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:46 AM
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>>>> Cc: Ericka
>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering what people are doing with braille books that are in that were produced before the 2015 change over to UEB. I have braille books that I really don’t want to toss, but I can’t read them well enough in the pre-2015 braille to justify keeping. I’m willing to send them overseas or free matter them to someone who can’t send them overseas. Let me know.
>>>> 
>>>> Ericka Nelson
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