[BlindTlk] Braille books in old old

Tue Sep 3 22:46:10 UTC 2019

I think that is true for those of us raised on US braille.

But UEB really does make more sense in this digital age.

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From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk
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I know we can't do anything about it.  I can read it somewhat better, 
depending on how much different stuff there is in it.  If it's just regular 
text, it's okay.  But I don't see any reason to ever write it, myself.  I 
just don't think I will be put in a situation where that is necessary.  Pam.

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From: Hyde, David W. (ESC) via BlindTlk
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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old

Well, whether we like it or not, the train has left the station. I can read 
UEB better than I can write it. Sixty years of doing it one way doesn't 
change in a moment. I still put words together, use signs that have gone 
away, and when reading, I come to a full stop when I see a, followed by 
tion.

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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old

I think of the old saying if it’s not broke don’t fix it they broke it by 
trying to fix it

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> On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> There are words that you can’t combine together anymore like of the house 
> to have a space between it. The sign for by like “by the seaside or byline 
> Hass to be spelled out now.
> Trust me, I’ve tried to read the stuff and I can’t. It’s too confusing. 
> Punctuation changed a lot by the way. The simple.?, Etc. didn’t but have 
> you looked at those parenthesis? Yeah they look a lot more like print so 
> it’s easy for me to remember how to read.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> In US Braille:
>>
>> Dropped d at the beginning of a word is letters dis.
>> In the middle is a double-d as in "daddy."
>> At the end is a period.
>>
>> Dropped h at beginning is a open-quote In middle, not used in
>> literary braille.
>> At the end, a question-mark.
>>
>> Dropped F:
>> At beginning is the word "to."
>> In the middle is a double-f.
>> At the end is an exclamation point.
>>
>> These things aren't that much different in UEB, although some of the 
>> rules did change for UEB.
>>
>> Judy
>>
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>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Ericka via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 7:20 PM
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>> Cc: Ericka
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
>>
>> Judy, and I learn braille as a child or had no residual vision I probably 
>> could. However I find the US braille difficult. Dropped F, drop D and 
>> dropped H. is in weird places main something depending on where they are. 
>> That is confusing! I read faster in the new braille. I have children’s 
>> books and some religious things for the taking.
>>
>> Ericka Nelson
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk 
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Erika,
>>>
>>> Actually, if you can do UEB braille, you can also read US.  There are 
>>> differences in the punctuation and numbers formatting, but the numbers 
>>> and letters themselves are all the same.  Most of the contractions are 
>>> the same, they have done away with some of them, but you will never find 
>>> a strange formation of dots you can't recognize.
>>>
>>> I took the UEB course, just to know what it is like, and although I 
>>> prefer US braille, I can read the UEB.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>> “Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Ericka via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:46 AM
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>>> Cc: Ericka
>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
>>>
>>> I’m wondering what people are doing with braille books that are in that 
>>> were produced before the 2015 change over to UEB. I have braille books 
>>> that I really don’t want to toss, but I can’t read them well enough in 
>>> the pre-2015 braille to justify keeping. I’m willing to send them 
>>> overseas or free matter them to someone who can’t send them overseas. 
>>> Let me know.
>>>
>>> Ericka Nelson
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