[BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
Judy Jones
sonshines59 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 4 00:56:16 UTC 2019
Very true.
I did all my college work in braille, my note-taking. I used spiral notebooks with a slate and stylus, and had no problems keeping up.
I did have books on reel to reel tapes back then, but you're right, I ended up taking notes on them, too.
Judy
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I worry too. Audio is not really learning. If you’re reading a mystery book that’s one thing, but I remember trying to do college work listening to concerts and that just totally sucked. The digital talking book has its benefits but I still don’t think I could learn somethings as easily. But then, you have to take braille notes while you listen just like a sighted person reads a book and shots in the margins.
Ericka Nelson
> On Sep 3, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I shudder to think what braille literature will be lost if they do not get it duplicated.
>
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> I think the library of congress is already getting rid of them. Because
> last time I was at the library, I took out a book that had a date before
> 2015, so I thought it would be in standard braille. What a surprise I got
> when I took it home and it was not! Also, it seems that when they digitize
> them, they no longer digitize old ones they didn't catch up on, yet; even
> though they are old books, they still are now in UEB. Pam.
>
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> Okay, I understand, and now that you have a grasp on UEB anyway.
>
> The availability of US braille will gradually disappear as books get older.
> On the otherhand, you might find materials in those books not available yet
> in UEB. US braille will be around for years, though.
>
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> Why would I want to read something in old braille it takes me an hour to
> read a page when I could Read and comprehend the children’s book in half an
> hour or less?
>
> For me, old braille is any efficient. It’s personal preference. United
> English braille makes more sense to me.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The best way to get use to it is to use it. I encourage my braille
>> students to read, read, read, and take the pressure off trying to
>> memorize. When you think about it, you didn't have to memorize how to
>> spell the majority of words in the English language when learning to read
>> as a kid. You were just trained to start reading a few simple phrases at
>> first, and gradually through spelling lessons, added to your vocabulary.
>> But the secret is read, read, read. Memory comes through use without the
>> pressure of memorization.
>>
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>> There are words that you can’t combine together anymore like of the house
>> to have a space between it. The sign for by like “by the seaside or byline
>> Hass to be spelled out now.
>> Trust me, I’ve tried to read the stuff and I can’t. It’s too confusing.
>> Punctuation changed a lot by the way. The simple.?, Etc. didn’t but have
>> you looked at those parenthesis? Yeah they look a lot more like print so
>> it’s easy for me to remember how to read.
>>
>> Ericka Nelson
>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 12:13 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> In US Braille:
>>>
>>> Dropped d at the beginning of a word is letters dis.
>>> In the middle is a double-d as in "daddy."
>>> At the end is a period.
>>>
>>> Dropped h at beginning is a open-quote
>>> In middle, not used in literary braille.
>>> At the end, a question-mark.
>>>
>>> Dropped F:
>>> At beginning is the word "to."
>>> In the middle is a double-f.
>>> At the end is an exclamation point.
>>>
>>> These things aren't that much different in UEB, although some of the
>>> rules did change for UEB.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
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>>> Judy, and I learn braille as a child or had no residual vision I probably
>>> could. However I find the US braille difficult. Dropped F, drop D and
>>> dropped H. is in weird places main something depending on where they are.
>>> That is confusing! I read faster in the new braille. I have children’s
>>> books and some religious things for the taking.
>>>
>>> Ericka Nelson
>>>
>>>> On Sep 2, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk
>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Erika,
>>>>
>>>> Actually, if you can do UEB braille, you can also read US. There are
>>>> differences in the punctuation and numbers formatting, but the numbers
>>>> and letters themselves are all the same. Most of the contractions are
>>>> the same, they have done away with some of them, but you will never find
>>>> a strange formation of dots you can't recognize.
>>>>
>>>> I took the UEB course, just to know what it is like, and although I
>>>> prefer US braille, I can read the UEB.
>>>>
>>>> Judy
>>>> “Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Braille books in old old
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>>>> I’m wondering what people are doing with braille books that are in that
>>>> were produced before the 2015 change over to UEB. I have braille books
>>>> that I really don’t want to toss, but I can’t read them well enough in
>>>> the pre-2015 braille to justify keeping. I’m willing to send them
>>>> overseas or free matter them to someone who can’t send them overseas.
>>>> Let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Ericka Nelson
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