[BlindTlk] [PhonesForTheBlind] motorola update policy adverse to users

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Sat Apr 25 19:59:26 UTC 2020


Now an interesting question might be, which corporation removed those
features?  Was it google in android 10 before Samsung got android 10 to
customize or was it Samsung who did that?

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020, Stephen Giggar wrote:

> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 15:41:24
> From: Stephen Giggar <sgiggar at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: PhonesForTheBlind at groups.io
> To: PhonesForTheBlind at groups.io, blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: androidaccessibility at groups.io
> Subject: Re: [PhonesForTheBlind] motorola update policy adverse to users
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> The G7 will get Android 10! The Moto g7+ started receiving the update back in Jan/March of this year. So I wouldn't have expect the
> Moto G7 to get it in 2019. I would have expected it to receive the update sometime in 2020 and looking on the web it looks to be the
> case. Sometime in 2nd/3rd quarters  of 2020 is when Android 10 will be rolling out to the Moto G7, G7 Play etc... The + version of
> the Moto G line look to get the updates first.
>
> So yes your Moto g7 will get Android 10. Personally myself from what I've found with Android 10, it is much worse as far as
> accessibility with how the phone behaves at least on my Samsung Galaxy S10E. Android 9 just work one hell of a lot better and the
> Android 10 update. If I could, I would remove Android 10 and go back to 9. Just a much better user experience to me. Yes I know this
> is up to each user as far as what is better. I've not found anything that works better in Android 10 over 9. However I've found
> things that work worse as far as how I liked them. Example only. On Android 9 if I have my phone on the charger and turned on. If I
> pressed the power button to wake up the phone, it would tell me fast charging and the percentage of battery and how long remaining
> to full charge without me doing anything. On Android 10, it tells me nothing like that just by pressing the power button. Another
> example. On Android 9. When I went into Setting and battery etc... I could get information while charging to see how long I sent on
> a call for the last charge of the battery and on Android 10; This isn't available that I can find anymore. But again this could be
> just the Samsung Galaxy S10E issues and not Android 10 related.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PhonesForTheBlind at groups.io [mailto:PhonesForTheBlind at groups.io] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:07 PM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: androidaccessibility at groups.io; phonesfortheblind at groups.io
> Subject: [PhonesForTheBlind] motorola update policy adverse to users
>
> Motorola just released a flagship phone costing $999 this week.
> The problem with that phone and my guess is all other motorola phones is that those phones will get one operating system update
> during their lifetimes.  After that if you want another operating system update, you have to root the phone and install it or find
> someone you pay and trust to do it for you.
> I have a moto G7 and expected it would get android 10 on it by the end of
> 2019 but that hasn't happened yet.
> This is adverse to users from a security standpoint since operating systems have been and can be hacked beyond any ability to
> prevent those hacks with any patches to existing operating systems.
> Several operating system kernels on several commercial distributions of software some of them proprietary have long-standing well
> documented problems of this nature.
> Until such time as Motorola's operating system updates policy improves I don't recommend buying any of that hardware or replacing
> existing hardware with more motorola hardware.
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