[BlindTlk] A question

Tue Mar 10 23:04:14 UTC 2020

I had a sighted teacher who sometimes ate in front of us and talked with her 
mouth full, so it isn't restricted to the blind.  That behavior was 
repulsive!

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
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Oh there is no question about sighted people having all kinds of bad habits
which is why when my kids were growing up, I made sure to teach them proper
eating habits, grooming, etc.

But somehow when it's someone who is blind doing something not proper, it
comes across differently such as "Oh that poor blind person" or "Oh, such a
shame.."  Nothing irks me more than pity.

As far as telling someone about their bad habit, just figure out a way to do
it gently, but do it, especially if it will benefit them and it's something
noticeable presenting a bad image.  Hopefully they will appreciate you
telling them and take it in stride.

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I so agree!  My mom used to say "If you can't say "How are you?" clearly,
your mouth is probably too full.  She corrected me just as much as she did
my sighted sister on table manners.  She used to say, "People don't want to
see what you're eating as you eat it."  I get amazed at how many people
blind and even some sighted do this.  But how to tell them--that is the
question.

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I agree unless it's really something noticeable.  It never ceases to amaze
me how some visually impaired folks are not taught the proper manners or
etiquette when growing up, such as eating with a knife and fork, not with
your hands, chewing your food with your mouth open, etc.  parents that do
this don't realize they are doing that child an injustice.

When I was young, my Mom cut up my food for me until one day I told her I
wanted to do it myself, and guess what, it wasn't that hard to do.  I know
some that have a restaurant cut up their food for them all the time before
it's brought out to the table.  I understand if a person simply prefers not
to do that themselves, , but I don't think it present a good image of blind
folks to the general public to do that.  Of course, I'm pretty independent
and have always been that way, and do realize independence is different for
everyone.

be
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It isn't easy.  If you don't know the person I would say it's best not to
say anything.

On 3/10/2020 3:10 PM, Sherri via BlindTlk wrote:
> I appreciate this conversation.  For those who have children, you know
> they are quick and not always so tactful about pointing out things.
> This particular instance refers to the table manners of a friend who
> was visiting.  It's a very sticky subject!  I would want to be told if
> my manners offended someone so I could try to change them.  I also
> appreciate being told if I have a shirt on that is stained, dirty or
> see-through.  I would much rather know than have people talk about it
> behind my back.  My mom was a stickler for good manners, good hygiene,
> etc. and I am glad she was.  My question is how do you tell someone
> without offending them?  Pat, thanks for bringing this matter to our
attention.
>
> Sherri
>
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> What I'm thinking is most people who don't know you probably won't say
> anything.  If they know you, depending on how well you know each other
> would probably determine whether or not they said anything.
>
>
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> It does depend on the social skills of the person telling you.
>
>
> On 3/10/2020 12:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:
>> It would depend on how they told me.  In most cases, I probably would
>> thank them, and be glad they told me.  I was wearing a shirt that was
>> able to be seen through.  A person told me, and I felt embarrassed
>> because I didn't know, but I was grateful, and thanked her.  Now, if
>> the person was snarky about it, depending on how, that might make a
>> difference in how I responded. Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: PLipovsky via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 8:49 PM
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>> Subject: [BlindTlk] A question
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I had a discussion about this with someone the other day, and thought
>> I would throw it out to you to get your input..
>>
>> If a friend, or someone you know with vision told you there was a
>> stain on your shirt, or your pants were dirty or wrinkled, would  you
>> get offended?
>>
>>
>> Since I always try to look my best, especially when out in public, I
>> personally would welcome that, in fact, I've told people if they see
>> something not quite right to always let me know, as I would rather
>> know so I can fix it rather than go around looking sloppy.
>>
>> Any opinions?
>>
>>
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