[BlindTlk] amazon.com

[Jude DaShiell]

I think a large part of the problem with jaws is way too many people get 
introduced to that screen reader and Windows without adequate and proper 
training for the use of either the operating system or the screen reader. 
That in and of itself necessarily leads to several early failures in the 
exposure process and when starting with training processes early successes 
are necessary as building blocks for the failures which will arrive 
shortly.  The fact that most people getting initial jaws exposure do it as 
a result of Federal State County or municipal employment where no 
accessible training plans or budgets exist and no effective challenge 
tests exist to prove the employee already has the capability and knowledge 
and doesn't need the training do not exist doesn't help matters either.  I 
know, I've been there done that and got the T-Shirt to prove it.  Now, 
from me having gone through that meat grinder, what could be done better?
First, audio tutorials on the use of windows and jaws not on anyone's hard 
drive.  Listen to those on a separate dvd player and those need to be 
small chunks of material followed by specific tasks to try and maybe have 
someone knowledgeable about the training see what happens on the computer 
and tell the trainee how to back out of the mistake they just made and how 
to do that part of the exercise correctly.
Yes, I know it will cost more but quality results cost and why have the 
employee on the payroll with minimal training investment and then get 
disappointed with the results?

  On Sun, 21 Feb 2021, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:

> I have used jaws.  I have tried jaws.  It and I don't get along.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Peter Donahue via BlindTlk
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:56 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] amazon.com
>
> Hello Pam and everyone,
>
> By refusing to use Jaws you're putting limits on yourself as to what Websites 
> and applications you can access with a screen reader. If you want to shop at 
> Wallmart learn to like Jaws so you can do so and use other screen readers for 
> other applications and Internet resources you can access with them. Take off 
> the limits and shop until you drop on www.wallmart.com. All the best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez 
> via BlindTlk
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] amazon.com
>
> I am using a computer and I can't use Wal-mart anymore.  Everybody says it 
> works with jaws, but I hate jaws.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ericka via BlindTlk
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 9:13 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Ericka
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] amazon.com
>
> Walmart.com sucks for iPhon users.
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>>  On Feb 19, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
>>  <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>  I had set up an account and there is an item I'd like to buy today.
>>  Unfortunately firefox amazon interface is to put it nicely odd.
>>  There's a link for me to choose my address and when I click on that it
>>  gives me a choice of android devices.
>>  The problem with that is I don't want anything delivered to my
>>  physical address and had entered the location earlier.
>>  I think I'm going to delete the account.  At least the WalMart app
>>  works and I've bought stuff with that app before.
>>  The android app is no better for amazon.com.
>> 
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