[BlindTlk] [BlTlk] [BlTlk] [NAGDU] FW: My Letter of Resignation

Tue Mar 9 18:45:29 UTC 2021

I would think the revision would only apply to new clients, not to existing handlers, but don’t know that for sure.

I know when I went there back in the 80’s, I don’t even remember signing a contract, but don’t know that for sure either, since it was so long ago.

From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Judy Jones via BlindTlk
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But wouldn't they vpdate handlers with contract revisions? It would seem that the contract signed should be the revision honored, but, again, that depends on policy.

As emotional as this issue is, it's policy that really drives the train, and all handlers should be able to pull their contract and keep abreast of any policy changes, just as you would an insurance policy, or any other.

If you can't read print, or don't use braille, make sure you have it in the media of your choice and keep good records.

Judy
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Date: Tuesday, March 09, 2021 09:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [BlTlk] [NAGDU] FW: My Letter of Resignation

Of course the school can revise their contract. Years ago, that clause was not part of their contract. It was added when someone refused to let them take their dog.

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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [BlTlk] [NAGDU] FW: My Letter of Resignation

Could they revise the contract to exclude taking your dog back? If they won't change it, could Nagdu or even higher, do something to change that rule? I think it is awful, unkind, and unfair. Snatching a dog with no warning is also unprofessional, I would think.

Now if someone really is abusing their dog, then they could have a powwow about it and work on working things out to the agreement and satisfaction of the company and their client.
Blessings,
Lauren
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From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Judy Jones via BlindTlk
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Hi Peter and All,

Back to the basics.

Southeastern should have a documented policy stated in their contract. I'm guessing each handler gets a copy of this contract, and in a media they can access later, am I correct?

While I agree with what has been said regarding this issue, and very sorry for the loss and pain, the facts are, bottom line, policy is the bedrock of that documentation, and has that been disregarded by either party?

I would be pulling out my copy of that contract and revisiting it.

They would have to show me a paper trail before jerking my dog.

Judy
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----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Donahue via BlindTlk
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Date: Monday, March 08, 2021 06:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [NAGDU] FW: My Letter of Resignation

Good evening everyone,

This is what happens when the NFB becomes obsessed with a particular issue and neglects others. Our determination to secure air travel rights for blind air travelers in the 1970s and 1980s nearly resulted in the loss of some prominent federationists at that time feeling that airline issues took priority over other concerns of greater importance to the blind. The current obscession with diversity and inclusion is repeating this same behavior while the rights of guide dog users are not being protected and our guide dog schools paternalistic policies go unchecked. All blind people need to feel welcomed and comfortable in the federation but their concerns must be addressed equally with the organizations other activities and programs.

Is it no wonder why some blind people do not want to become members particularly if they feel their concerns are being ignored or if the behavior of federation leaders and members causes them to feel "Held back?" How sad.

Peter Donahue

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From: BlindTlk On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg via BlindTlk
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 5:24 PM
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Cc: Catherine Clegg ; blindtlk at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindtlk at nfbnet.org> ; Marion Gwizdala,
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [NAGDU] FW: My Letter of Resignation

I am really sorry to see you leave. Thanks for your leadership and guidance for so long. Catherine Clegg

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> On Mar 8, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Marion Gwizdala, via NAGDU wrote:
>
> President Riccobono,
>
>
>
> On April 22, 2020, Southeastern Guide Dogs forcibly removed the guide 
> dog of les Demers, a member of the Tampa bay chapter of the National 
> Federation of the Blind of florida and the Florida Association of 
> guide Dog users. As president of the National Association of Guide Dog 
> Users, I have had several calls relating similar instances in which 
> Southeastern abruptly and without warning, without evidence of abuse 
> or neglect, and without due process forcibly removed a guide dog from 
> its blind handler. On March 5, 2021, I received a call from Rev. susan 
> Blake, a blind Episcopal priest in the diocese of Orlando, stating 
> that Southeastern Guide dogs showed up at her residence unannounced on 
> March 4, 2021 and forcibly removed her dog because it "looks like it is about four pounds overweight".
> I immediately contacted Raul Gallegos whose first reaction was "I need 
> to contact Southeastern." He seemed unconcerned about this abusive, 
> undignified, unethical, and immoral behavior and contacting Rev. Blake 
> was an afterthought. President Gallegos has Rev. Blake's contact 
> information and, as of the date of this writing, has not reached out to Rev. Blake.
>
>
>
> The board of directors of the National Association of Guide dog Users 
> met to discuss the incident concerning Mr. Demers and chose to not 
> pursue this case. If they had, perhaps Rev. Blake would still have her dog!
>
>
>
> I have held various elected leadership positions with the National 
> Federation of the blind since 1987. Since 2004, I have served on the 
> board of directors of the National Association of Guide dog Users, 
> including assuming the presidency by succession in 2007 and elected to 
> the presidency in 2008. I have dedicated my life to protecting the 
> rights of guide dog users and have invested countless hours and 
> financial assets in the organization, believing it was the best avenue 
> for change in the manner in which guide dog users are treated. If you 
> were to ask any active member of NAGDU what the primary focus of my 
> administration was, most would say "Ownership upon completion of 
> training". We discussed ownership during nearly every meeting and I 
> frequently questioned those training programs with ownership policies 
> other than full and complete ownership after completion of training as 
> to their rationale for such paternalistic policies. Their 
> justifications for these policies were as paternalistic as the policies themselves!
>
>
>
> It is very apparent the National Federation of the Blind and the 
> current administration of the National Association of Guide dog users 
> is not interested in protecting the rights and dignity of blind guide 
> dog consumers. I cannot, in good conscience, continue to serve and 
> support an organization that disregards the basic fundamental rights 
> of blind consumers. Effective immediately, I am resigning my 
> membership in the National Federation of the Blind and the National 
> Association of Guide Dog Users. This will also serve to resign my 
> elected offices as president of the Florida Association of Guide dog 
> Users and the board of directors of the Tampa Bay chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of florida.
>
>
>
> Respectfully submitted,
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
> (813) 626-2789
>
> Marion.Gwizdala at verizon.net <mailto:Marion.Gwizdala at verizon.net> 
>
>
>
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